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  1. #141
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    Larirawiel's Avatar
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larissa View Post
    Answer me this, has any streamer been banned for using a third party tool for an vc overlay? No. Did they specify of it taking any advantage on communication programs such as discord? No, raids or no, it’s an everyday party tool that doesn’t change anything in game as I stated earlier.
    For those questions there is only one answer: we do not know.

    And i guess, the people are not so upset because they ban people for violating the ToS. The people are upset because it happened so suddenly. They are also upset because after reviewing the new ToS there are 30 light years² of grey area in it. And it looks like, that you can take down players for 10 days with some mass reports.




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  2. #142
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    I will use Steam voice chat with my group.

    Take that, ToS.
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  3. #143
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    Liam Harper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grebeny View Post
    Shoot me please. This is childish topic. Discord is not third party tool as far as it does not interract with FF launcher, game files, data packages, it is a program that exists indipendent from FFXIV. If someone is not just pretending to be smarty and using this argument for troll, just need to check themselves.
    So if someone made a program that if you set your battle log to only display damage dealt, you could copy-paste it and it would calculate everyone's dps ...would it be ok to parse? Could I then casually post the numbers in party chat after a run if I made no other comment?

    I wouldn't be using a program that interacts with the launcher, game files or data, nor am I technically harassing any players, saying they suck or being abusive.
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  4. #144
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    Junpei Iorii
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    This whole fiesta barely effects anyone if no one says anything as he admitted he cannot tell whats on your PC.
    The whole thing is being blown up for no reason lmao. Just release more content please, my guy.

    Also nice bait thread, caught a few lmao.
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    Last edited by Jybril; 05-11-2022 at 11:32 PM. Reason: Added.

  5. #145
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    Oizen's Avatar
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larissa View Post
    Answer me this, has any streamer been banned for using a third party tool for an vc overlay? No. Did they specify of it taking any advantage on communication programs such as discord? No, raids or no, it’s an everyday party tool that doesn’t change anything in game as I stated earlier.
    The announcement literally says "Use of tools that allow players to more easily complete content." in the announcement.

    I would argue that Discord does this on a far wider scale, than any add on or plugin. There was no clarification on whats ok and whats not, so we can only take these words at face value.

    So please stop cheating, you're ruining the experience of the game for everyone.
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  6. #146
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    Vavil Veneth
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    stop using discord
    Isn't discord notorious for having unchecked underage grooming servers to the point of it being memed on?
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  7. #147
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    Rina Tsukimori
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    ahh .. then ban people who make guide videos , that's a big disadvantage for people who don't watch them in pt finders
    ban mentors too i guess , only the ones that actually help sprouts because that's a big disadvantage ?
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  8. #148
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Quote Originally Posted by lalin View Post
    ahh .. then ban people who make guide videos , that's a big disadvantage for people who don't watch them in pt finders
    ban mentors too i guess , only the ones that actually help sprouts because that's a big disadvantage ?
    Mentors are fine as they typically put you at a disadvantage.
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  9. #149
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    Misha Fiertze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    The announcement literally says "Use of tools that allow players to more easily complete content." in the announcement.

    I would argue that Discord does this on a far wider scale, than any add on or plugin. There was no clarification on whats ok and whats not, so we can only take these words at face value.

    So please stop cheating, you're ruining the experience of the game for everyone.
    "Use of tools that allow players to more easily complete content."

    I wish good luck to SE on their crusade with very obscure 3rd party definition :3

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  10. #150
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    Leon Keyh
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    Cactuar
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    Discord does not interact with the game and thus is not a third party tool.

    Having a house that is big enough to fit an entire raid team into so that you can talk and view each others' screens is not a third party tool.

    Please stop.
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