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    Quote Originally Posted by Larissa View Post
    Yes it is SPECIFIED as a third party tool, but discord doesn't change anything in the game.

    >Use of tools that allow players to more easily complete content.
    >Modification of the UI to display additional information.*
    >Use of packet spoofing tools.
    >Any actions or public statements that promote use of third-party tools.



    it SAYS ANYTHING that specifies as CHEATING and CHANGING of anything UI, graphical, even characters. Some mods that include, ACT, cactbot, death timer, UI changes mod, reshaders, Gshade, XIVAlexander, character mods, CMTool and so much more. While I do agree certain buffs such as timers should be a countdown of a cd such as Inner Release which was specified.

    But you cant just say discord should be banned because of it specified as a third party tool, there are many 3rd party tools that we use on a daily basis. Payment, social networking browers (google, facebook, twitter etc.), Service providers, social chat apps (discord, skype, slack, etc). I can make a list of more third party tools but you see my point. Until the developers say what mods specify we CAN and CANNOT use, discord is safe.
    Discord Overlay, Voice chat when the game doesn't have one by default ect.
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    Lucine Fukiku
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    Answer me this, has any streamer been banned for using a third party tool for an vc overlay? No. Did they specify of it taking any advantage on communication programs such as discord? No, raids or no, it’s an everyday party tool that doesn’t change anything in game as I stated earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larissa View Post
    Answer me this, has any streamer been banned for using a third party tool for an vc overlay? No. Did they specify of it taking any advantage on communication programs such as discord? No, raids or no, it’s an everyday party tool that doesn’t change anything in game as I stated earlier.
    For those questions there is only one answer: we do not know.

    And i guess, the people are not so upset because they ban people for violating the ToS. The people are upset because it happened so suddenly. They are also upset because after reviewing the new ToS there are 30 light years² of grey area in it. And it looks like, that you can take down players for 10 days with some mass reports.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Larissa View Post
    Answer me this, has any streamer been banned for using a third party tool for an vc overlay? No. Did they specify of it taking any advantage on communication programs such as discord? No, raids or no, it’s an everyday party tool that doesn’t change anything in game as I stated earlier.
    The announcement literally says "Use of tools that allow players to more easily complete content." in the announcement.

    I would argue that Discord does this on a far wider scale, than any add on or plugin. There was no clarification on whats ok and whats not, so we can only take these words at face value.

    So please stop cheating, you're ruining the experience of the game for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    The announcement literally says "Use of tools that allow players to more easily complete content." in the announcement.

    I would argue that Discord does this on a far wider scale, than any add on or plugin. There was no clarification on whats ok and whats not, so we can only take these words at face value.

    So please stop cheating, you're ruining the experience of the game for everyone.
    "Use of tools that allow players to more easily complete content."

    I wish good luck to SE on their crusade with very obscure 3rd party definition :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insertusernamehere View Post
    "Use of tools that allow players to more easily complete content."

    I wish good luck to SE on their crusade with very obscure 3rd party definition :3

    Oh my gosh, Don Quixote, this is accurate. *nod, nod*

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    B... but ... i have an Amiga 500. I hope, it is also allowed.
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    Ban everyone not using Commodore 64 computer.
    What about an IBM 5100?
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    I didnt say im cheating, I'm just stating the facts here. So excuse you for accusing me.
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