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    Adamantini's Avatar
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    Cyric Eladriel
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Discord is a third-party program. We must report to everyone who uses this program to gain an advantage in fights.
    This program makes it easier to call during the fight, putting those who write via chat at a disadvantage. Clearly cheating!

    And I still raise another discussion here: keyboards!
    That's right! Keyboards clearly make the chat function easier, making PS players at a distinct disadvantage during RPs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

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    Miawkwa Fletcher
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilor View Post
    If I pick up my phone and call the entire raid in a conference call on speaker phone how is that any different than a Discord lobby?

    Other than the improved sound quality?

    Is my Android Phone a Third Party Program?
    How is it not? It’s giving you an unfair advantage over some players in-game. SE would have provided you a phone if they wanted you to use one mid-raid. I’d recommend against mentioning it - otherwise you may get reported.
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  3. #23
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    Fawkes Macleod
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    Whenever we play FFXIV we should enter a special "quarantine" chamber IRL, so that we have no access to any person around us
    This sounds wonderful, where can I get one?
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    Just... laff. Here comes the over-achievers to blow everything out of total proportion.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    Just... laff. Here comes the over-achievers to blow everything out of total proportion.
    Third-party systems are third-party systems. SE didn’t differentiate between mods,
    , reshaders, voice chat programs or anything of the like. So technically OP is valid - and their statement is 100% backed by the TOS.
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  6. #26
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza View Post
    Third-party systems are third-party systems. SE didn’t differentiate between mods,
    , reshaders, voice chat programs or anything of the like. So technically OP is valid - and their statement is 100% backed by the TOS.
    There's a post on the forums from the community team saying reshade is fine.

    Just... Stop.

    I don't even use it because I think all the presets are over saturated garbage but...

    The disingenuous posting on here is insane.
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  7. #27
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    Ein'sf Florr
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    Yea! No more discord! Make party/fc chat lively again!
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    Padudu Moro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    There's a post on the forums from the community team saying reshade is fine.

    Just... Stop.
    It's a third party program though? So either all of it is okay or none of it is
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  9. #29
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza View Post
    Third-party systems are third-party systems. SE didn’t differentiate between mods,
    , reshaders, voice chat programs or anything of the like. So technically OP is valid - and their statement is 100% backed by the TOS.
    A little bit of critical thinking goes a long way in being able to discern what would be appropriate, and what wouldn't be appropriate.
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  10. #30
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    Tai Natuia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilor View Post
    If I pick up my phone and call the entire raid in a conference call on speaker phone how is that any different than a Discord lobby?

    Other than the improved sound quality?

    Is my Android Phone a Third Party Program?
    Yes it is, it is giving an unfair advantage to people without that type of cell phone capability. The internet as a whole is third party program. The websites that have recorded locations, information about which shop sells what, websites that give you market board information, fishing locations, gathering locations, how to get a minion, how to get a title. All of it is a third party program. Which is why not being able to see the numbers in your battle tab compressed into a legible form without the chat scrolling up every time you twitch click your mouse should also legitimately not be third party.

    It should actually be readable in game, and it sure is. Unfortunately I am the only idiot willing to copy and paste each section of chat into note pad or wordpad on my computer or google docs(which is also third party tool) in order to see what the heck killed me in a fight. Shiva Extreme well I died to the ice spike thing time to look through the log....what would this even be called I say to myself, finally find the part were I was defeated. I took more than my health in damage. Cool is it shared, did my mits do nothing, if only the game would allow for me to find this information without scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, maybe going back into the fight and attempting to see the very small fly text on the screen in hopes of seeing the very small(insert spell name) 15% blocked.

    Wanting reasonable things is unreasonable even though most of the time the capability is already in the game. I think people with 20 20 vision or people with glasses also have are using their third party glasses to play the game too. The mental gymnastics is boundless, and I would even call scrolling through your battle tab also an unfair advantage because you were willing to do the work no one else will. Just like the people who were upset about the unfair advantage people who push their buttons in the game have over someone who is licking windows. They want to change the jobs already, so by that absurd logic the game company is already using as an excuse to take away abilities they could use on people who wear glasses.

    I think I have figured it out. This is the mind set we all need to be in when understanding the circle brained shaders in a game are clearly cheating. Anything is cheating. Everything is cheating. Even playing the game normally is cheating. You are all cheating because you push all of your buttons.

    (sleep deprived rambling has ended. I am sorry everyone)

    So yes a phone is 'cheating'. Some one may even be deaf or like to play with their volume off like I do most of the time to avoid sensory overload, though there are really no other options. But it really isn't cheating because who gives a damn if someone wants their fairy to look like a fat cat, or their feet to not look like barbie, or their colors to look nicer in the game ( there was someone who mentioned settings in NVidia control panel I think. people could make the argument that using features on your graphics card could indeed be considered cheating because it 'modifies the game' not really but people spin it that way. aka just makes things look better by probably just changing one of the settings. So like enabling v sync. People were malding over pc users wishing to use linux over windows and wished for compatibility.

    I have a color setting through my graphics card so my monitor displays color more accurately utilizing the graphics card so the pictures are clearer. These crazy people would start using that if the honestly could even having an older video card and not able to put settings on high could be seen as a disadvantage or cheating because the graphics are nicer..

    TL;DR: Tin foil hat conspiracy! Some people be cray cray. I am not serious in my post but if we go on technicality legit everything could be spun as third party. Everything and anything could be a disadvantage to a player or give an advantage in the broadest of terms. In other words everyone is fine. Carry on as normal.
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    Last edited by Faafetai; 05-13-2022 at 01:46 PM.

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