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    Quote Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza View Post
    Third-party systems are third-party systems. SE didn’t differentiate between mods,
    , reshaders, voice chat programs or anything of the like. So technically OP is valid - and their statement is 100% backed by the TOS.
    A little bit of critical thinking goes a long way in being able to discern what would be appropriate, and what wouldn't be appropriate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    A little bit of critical thinking goes a long way in being able to discern what would be appropriate, and what wouldn't be appropriate.
    That kinda sounds like something a Discord user would say. You know that there’s a perfectly serviceable chat box in-game right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza View Post
    That kinda sounds like something a Discord user would say. You know that there’s a perfectly serviceable chat box in-game right?
    You ought to close your web browser because that would be considered third-party software. But of course, you won't, because you're using this as an opportunity to exercise in a very futile debate that ultimately undermines the topic at hand. Either there is some blatant trolling going on here or people are just devoid of the ability to rationalize a topic.

    Fortunately though:

    Accordingly, the following activities are prohibited:

    - Modifying, analyzing, integrating, and/or reverse-engineering game software or data.
    - Creating, distributing, using, or promoting utilities that interact with the game.
    I'll just act like a reasonable individual and understand that when they are talking about third-party they are making reference to these aforementioned statements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza View Post
    Third-party systems are third-party systems. SE didn’t differentiate between mods,
    , reshaders, voice chat programs or anything of the like. So technically OP is valid - and their statement is 100% backed by the TOS.
    Yep, thank you for proving my point. You are calling out something that has no interference with the game and they said was fine to use - the original intent behind the ToS. You should also keep in mind that their policies can be enforced carte blanche.

    Stop making this like it's some government conspiracy and thinking you have "rights" to do something. This is a private company and they can make choices on enforcement, leeway or heavy-handedness. You also need to learn the difference between spirit and letter.

    You give someone some rope to make common sense decisions, and they hand it off to others to be irresponsible with it, so they will hang everyone with it.
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    Yea! No more discord! Make party/fc chat lively again!
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    Is there like...a gas leak in the forums? What with people acting dumb with these pointless topics and posts recently?
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    I'm all for calling out SE on this, they need to stop side stepping the issue and explicitly state what is allowed and what isn't allowed. It's not hard. They're just being lazy.

    Fact: The HUD still needs a ton of QoL improvements that we've been asking for for years. It gets really annoying having to have this discussion every time a new ultimate comes out.
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    It's not this deep. Don't stream using add ons. Add ons that directly attach and put little diddlydoo's and zwinkiedinks on your actual game client. Ok. The passive aggressive 'BUT WHAT ABOUT DISCORD' sweetie, discord does not modify your actual game client. Ok. Surely even the people determined to break TOS on live television know that. Like, come on. We're not this new to computers are we?

    It's barely even dont do it-that's what gets me. It's barely even dont do it. It's just don't stream it. If you're going to rob a bank fine, but just dont livestream it on facebook so you're not immediately caught and look where we are. People arguing about their right to broadcast what they shouldnt be doing. Just don't stream it. We can all agree with ease that it's never ok to stream while using character mods. This is no different. Don't stream with mods. No one can stop you from using it. But just don't stream it. Because you put yourself in the situation to get snitched on by people who will in fact find your misery hilarious. Don't want to get snitched on by these kind of people? Don't put yourself in that vulnerable position to them via streaming yourself breaking a rule then. Stop putting yourself at their mercy intentionally out of your own stubbornness. This could be said for any other rule as well. Don't stream yourself harassing someone, don't stream yourself doing lewdy pics-you only get away with crimes that no one catches you doing. If you do it on tv, someone watching can tell on you. Some of these add-ons you have to go additional steps to even include on your screen which is just insane to me. Imagine wanting to tell on yourself that badly that you screengrab your entire desktop just to get that in the shot-just to make SURE its being captured and broadcasted. Just leave it out the shot. Stop putting it directly on the stream. This really is a person punching their own face kind of issue. None of the rest of us can help you.
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    Can this stupid thread just die now? Im actually legit malding over here over people acting like chickens with their heads cut off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Can this stupid thread just die now? Im actually legit malding over here over people acting like chickens with their heads cut off.
    Easy solution is to stop malding and step away from the forums if this thread bothers you :P
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