Quote Originally Posted by Issaella View Post
I see the same ones up night after night in the PF that never even come close to filling. The only ones that ever fill are the Duty Complete/Reclear groups. I mean, that's anecdotal, but I've been keeping an eye on the PF for a couple weeks now and I don't think I've ever seen anything advertised like that and the prog groups that do get advertised rarely fill in less than an hour before just imploding and the listing disappearing.



A couple things on this. One mechanic cleared per night, that's all you can expect? That just seems absurd to me, there are 8-10 mechanics in every one of these raid bosses. So that's literally tens of hours for 1 clear, best case scenario. So it just seems like progging it in PF will just repeat in the same failures over and over from night to night due to the lack of uniformity between groups with people who can't complete previous mechanics.

And again, anecdotally I have never really seen anything like what you guys are claiming being advertised in the PF. All I ever see is on one end of the spectrum Duty Complete/Reclear parties and on the other are half-full practice/prog parties that either never fill, or just keep getting relisted after half an hour minus 2-3 people from the previous run.

I don't have a uniform set of time I can set aside on a weekly basis to even attempt to join a static and it just seems like trying to prog any of the current Savages when I do have a couple hours to spare will just be an exercise in frustration. The chance of completion seems entirely based on getting lucky with a unicorn comp or a prog that manages to get everything right. How much time burned trying to find a group capable of progressing at all from one night to the next seems like it is an inordinate time sink.
You can prog through PF. Yeah it'll come with headaches, but it's not impossible. My old FC lead progged the entire tier that way, just have to be patient with people if you actually want your clears or host your own parties if you can't find something that fits where you're at prog wise. If it's worth it to you, stick it out.