Quote Originally Posted by Colt47 View Post
Who spent the time to set up the party in pf, save the necessary markers, goes through setting the strategy being used, puts the markers down to make sure everyone knows where they are standing before the first pull, sets up the expectation as to what is to be accomplished, and has to suffer when someone, not saying you, but maybe you, decides that you don't like the fact the group wiped twice one or two mechs before the one in the PF, and immediately leaves, having to put the entire party up again and having to repeat the process?

That's being a leader and showing willingness to organize and prepare a team. And yeah, you DO actually provide corrections and information when things go south, not break up and try again.
And where exactly did I say that someone should not provide corrections if they are knowledgeable enough about the fight to do it? Or to break up a party because things go south?

You confuse setting up a PF with leading a party.
Those two are not connected by default.
While many people that create a PF also happen to provide markers and a macro it is not a requirement because creating a party doesn't make you into the leader in the sense of guiding everyone and providing help. By that logic everyone who is still at prog stage would need to hope for someone who has already cleared to create a practice party to join - which is not the case. Everyone is free to create a party, state what they want to practice and whether they need markers/ macro or not.
If a helper joins, they are most likely the most experienced and will also most likely 'lead' the party or rather provide corrections. They will also have markers, a macro or correct something about what other people brought if they see an issue with that - and all that is entirely possible without having created the party.

Setting up a PF, writing "practice from start, please bring markers & macro. helpers welcome" is a very common description and these parties are perfectly capable of making good progress, with or without helpers.
It also quite common for someone that is not the party leader to post a macro or place markers.
It is, again, quite common for someone not being the party leader to correct strats someone, party leader or not, suggested.
So I stand by it: you are not automatically leading a party simply because you set up PF. The person setting up PF decides what is going to be practiced and has the option to kick people if they think they're holding the party back or cause drama - and that is all that comes with setting up a PF. Nothing more, nothing less.