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    Ath192's Avatar
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    Aries Helle
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    Black Mage Lv 100

    EU Graphical Update Feedback - Hands and Feet

    Overall I am extremely pleased with how good and natural faces are looking. So thank you dev team for putting out all this work.

    I can't help but notice though that the hands and presumably feet have not gotten this treatment yet. I am hoping they haven't gotten to it yet and will but I want to reinforce that it matters a lot. Please remake them to look as good as the faces. I will attach 2 pictures that have me concerned and make a further request that may seem hard but would be extremely neat.



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    As you can see the worst looking aspect of this image is still the hands, a part of our own body!!

    Please don't forget to update the whole body and not just the faces. The hands and feet in this game are already in a terrible state.

    As for the final request

    It would be incredible if you allowed us to dye our nails in the aesthetician instead of being a gear item.

    You have been hard at work adding glasses to faces with helmets and other gear, surely this is within the realm of possibility and more people will use this feature than the glasses. Of course, I appreciate the glasses feature, but I feel this is more important and impactful to me and must assume the same for several other players.
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    Fawkes Macleod
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Make 'em rounder than a lalafell's chin, Yoshi!



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    Last edited by Fawkes; 10-22-2023 at 05:44 AM.

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    Schwarzwaelder Torte
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    Cerberus
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    Oh yeah I've been wondering if they'd add any changes to hands... I was a bit confused by the "hotdog fingers" meme I kept seeing on social media because it wasn't bothering me that much, even in gpose, but then they introduced portraits and. Yeah. I've become conscious of the hands of my character lol I've even changed some of my glamour sets because of that

    On the image you posted it DOES seem like there's more definition in the texture (I think I see some... knuckle wrinkles if I squint), but it would be nice of them to really showcase the changes.

    Regarding nails: what I would really like is to add nails to bracelets instead of hand pieces. Bracelets themselves are almost always covered by gear anyway, which is a shame but not really avoidable, and it would allow more interesting combinations between hand pieces that show fingers and colored nails.
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Given that characters have a choice of head types, I'm going to assume that hats and heads are combined on the fly by the game engine. Thus you can replace the heads without the need to update all of those hat meshes at the same time.

    Meanwhile for hands, no such luck. SE would need to go back and update most of the gloves out there. This late in the game that's a lot of work.

    Some improvements can likely be worked in with improved skin materials though. Perhaps dyeable nails falls into that.

    One compromise would be to go with a new hand and foot mesh for some more popular items, the base player model and new items going forward but I'm not sure SE would be keen on that kind of inconsistency.
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  5. #5
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    Aries Helle
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    Quote Originally Posted by SchwarzwaelderTorte View Post

    On the image you posted it DOES seem like there's more definition in the texture (I think I see some... knuckle wrinkles if I squint), but it would be nice of them to really showcase the changes.

    Regarding nails: what I would really like is to add nails to bracelets instead of hand pieces. Bracelets themselves are almost always covered by gear anyway, which is a shame but not really avoidable, and it would allow more interesting combinations between hand pieces that show fingers and colored nails.
    If they are touched up in this image then that it is really bad. I hope they aren't for all our sakes because that means they think its good enough. Especially when the limbal ring in the aura's eyes are now perfectly round. We have very limited opportunities to correct issues like these in a game and I want them to get it right please. I feel like we really need to make this heard because adjusting the faces has to be way harder than what we're asking here. So if it gets forgotten it may never get addressed.

    Please, please be as detailed and as HD as possible with our bodies. Not just the faces.
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    Last edited by Ath192; 10-22-2023 at 03:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post

    That looks so bad it almost appears as if her fingers were cut off, citizen. There is much room for improvement here.




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    Just a reminder on top the hands posted above this is a current foot in the game. Some Ps2 level stuff right here:

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    Ari Fairlight
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    Shiva
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    Viper Lv 100
    They really need some update because the current textures are horrendous which is why I always try to hide them with glams.
    Hands and feet were truly never SE's strength... I doubt the graphic update will improve them much but I will hope the best.
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    Feiya Harlow
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Just a reminder on top the hands posted above this is a current foot in the game. Some Ps2 level stuff right here:

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    +1 I'm just here to give this my vote. Hopefully it gains enough traction and gets spotted
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