Please, Get Rid of Quick Chat

[Gserpent]

One has nothing to do with the other, since it never hurts to be nice. (Unless one has severe emotional issues.) Right now there are too many cheaters, premade groups, and also folks throwing matches on purpose. That's on the game maker, not players.

Huh? Cheaters are pretty rare, premade groups are literally impossible, and it's been a while since I've seen people *intentionally* throwing. Sometimes I'll see people pitch a temper tantrum after they get dumpstered after trying to dive the enemy team 1v5, but that tends to be a quick trip to Mordian Gaol for folks like that so... meh.

I do agree that we could use more quickchat options. Protect <target>! would be incredibly helpful for trying to ask people to peel DPS off of a specific person.

[Tobias_Azuryon]

Huh? Cheaters are pretty rare, premade groups are literally impossible, and it's been a while since I've seen people *intentionally* throwing. Sometimes I'll see people pitch a temper tantrum after they get dumpstered after trying to dive the enemy team 1v5, but that tends to be a quick trip to Mordian Gaol for folks like that so... meh.

I do agree that we could use more quickchat options. Protect <target>! would be incredibly helpful for trying to ask people to peel DPS off of a specific person.

Premades in the purest sense (i.e. 5 group vs 5 randos) is "close to" impossible yes. However grouping up in general is not.

In an easy to replicate example if I queued up with 4 other friends, sure on occasion our matches wouldn't link up but 9 times out of 10 we did. All it takes is one person being on the other team and 4 bein on the other to steer the match one way or the other, even worse if the team agrees to play weaker if they end up on opposing teams.

Doing full premade may be implausible but it is entirely possible for a group of 5 to steer the direction of fights unless something has dramatically changed this week in queuing methods.

How about letting us make quickchat commands using auto translated words?

"Could this be dog?"

[Shirala]

Huh? Cheaters are pretty rare, premade groups are literally impossible, and it's been a while since I've seen people *intentionally* throwing. Sometimes I'll see people pitch a temper tantrum after they get dumpstered after trying to dive the enemy team 1v5, but that tends to be a quick trip to Mordian Gaol for folks like that so... meh.

Denial ain't a river in Egypt.

Premades in the purest sense (i.e. 5 group vs 5 randos) is "close to" impossible yes. However grouping up in general is not.

In an easy to replicate example if I queued up with 4 other friends, sure on occasion our matches wouldn't link up but 9 times out of 10 we did. All it takes is one person being on the other team and 4 bein on the other to steer the match one way or the other, even worse if the team agrees to play weaker if they end up on opposing teams.

Doing full premade may be implausible but it is entirely possible for a group of 5 to steer the direction of fights unless something has dramatically changed this week in queuing methods.

Exactly, thank you.

[Ilisidi]

Crystalline Conflict is too fast to type-discuss strategy.

I would like Quickchat to also be available in Frontlines, but with it's standard chat still available, because Frontlines is slow enough and large enough for some strategy disussion.

And I want an option not tied to system sound to disable the quick chat sound notification.

[ShiroeTengoku]

We have plenty of time pre-game to type up a simple strategy, or when you're dead and respawning. There are times that are available for it.

[Raistlin]

1) Toxicity will escalate to unknown levels. I don't want people at base chatting how bad is everyone
2) It will raise so many support tickets will be insane.

If you don't think toxicity will be 10 times worse, u are delusional or never played other teamplay competitive games like MOBAs

[Iyrnwaen]

1) Toxicity will escalate to unknown levels. I don't want people at base chatting how bad is everyone
2) It will raise so many support tickets will be insane.

If you don't think toxicity will be 10 times worse, u are delusional or never played other teamplay competitive games like MOBAs

This.

There's ample precedent out there for what open PvP chat looks like.
We don't need to guess. It's never constructive. It's always a dumpster fire.

Quick Chat is missing a few options it needs, but it's fundamentally perfectly fine.

[Tobias_Azuryon]

Quick Chat is missing a few options it needs, but it's fundamentally perfectly fine.

The only thing I disagree with is missing a "few" options.

I'd say Quick chat is quite useless in its current iteration outside of tagging a single target and chat spam.

If an enemy is coming around the side instead of going through mid? No chat option for that.

If you're getting ganked in the back line? No chat option for that.

If you're going to go help someone? Cover is the only option and it's bad.

If you want to assist someone or coordinate LBs? LB ready isn't enough.

If you want tell someone to help someone else while you hold the point? Nothing.

If you want to tell the team to conserve LB for the oncoming zerg rush? Nothing.

Of you want to warn the team about a field effect? Nothing. (Perfect opportunity for Danger Bongos)

If you want to tell the team to play defense for a bit? Nada.

If you want to explain that there's 4 people on the point and there's no point going in to die? Nothing but listening to "push the crystal" sfx spam (something like "there's too many" or something would go a long way here).

I get that the matches go by quick and you won't be able to perfect strategize but the sheer lack of tools to coordinate make it where I can understand why people want full chat even if I disagree. You can't time your LBs with someone outside of a generic LB ready, you can't coordinate pincer attacks, you can't even tell them why you're leaving the crystal to help the people who are getting rocked behind you by the nin/mnk/etc. It's really difficult to coordinate when everyone in the room thinks they're the leader and that the rest of the team is "abandoning them" or "not doing their job" when there's a reason you leave or retreat 9 times out of 10. I know part of that is on the other people but the lack of options is bad too.

[ShiroeTengoku]

1) Toxicity will escalate to unknown levels. I don't want people at base chatting how bad is everyone
2) It will raise so many support tickets will be insane.

If you don't think toxicity will be 10 times worse, u are delusional or never played other teamplay competitive games like MOBAs

You really shouldn't just guess things about people. I've played games like League of Legends since their beginning, Smite, Heroes of the Storm, Overwatch, and have always ranked in their upper tiers. When League first created their Challenger tier, I was in it for 3 straight years, then I ended up just leaving the game for other ones since I really wasn't having fun anymore. Smite I never got too into, and stopped at Diamond. Heroes of the Storm, my friends stopped playing, so I did too, Gold admittedly but we only played for 2 weeks. Overwatch I poured way too much time into, kept nothing less than Diamond.

Yes, I know what free chat is capable of, and guess what, we're already capable of such things in the game itself, for every other game mode, for every other function of this game. Absolutely nothing stops you from sending a message to that person after the match to harass them either. Also, people aren't going to get as toxic as you might suspect here, because Square actually cares about player experience. Just report it and it'll get taken care of. People are vastly more likely to complain about a person in private with their friends; whether in voice chat, a discord server's text channel, or even sometimes in their FC or linkshell chats. What I'm getting at is, the majority of complaints happen where the 'victim' can't see it, because they know they'll catch punishment if they vent too hard.

[Sarevok_Thordin]

It's a ranked pvp game, I want agency over my team members to be able to tell them things like "Don't split". I don't care if people get mouthy, I'm a big boy.