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  1. #1
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    ShiroeTengoku's Avatar
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    Kuro Tengoku
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    Malboro
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    Paladin Lv 100

    Please, Get Rid of Quick Chat

    It isn't pleasant to use, it causes more harm than good, and definitely doesn't prevent toxicity.

    Please, just let us have normal chat like every single other time (dungeons, raids, trials, FRONT LINES, literally everything else.) The Quick Chat is good in theory, and can even complement the standard typing system, but it isn't good at all by itself as a base thing.

    The Quick Chat is severely limited, has so very limited options to even attempt to communicate an intention, and worst, it doesn't even have good options. Sure saying "Attacking <job>." can give an idea, but what does it mean? Does it mean you're going to chase them into LaLaLand, does it mean focus fire, does it mean, "That's the person that killed me."? Just a few examples, but it lacks the nuance.

    The fact that I can't type something as simple as, "Focus NIN then DRG." in chat bothers me greatly, and considering we can already do this in other PvP modes, bothers me further. I really don't know what else to say, except please just give standard typing back, and let Quick Chat just be a complement system, and not stand-alone.

    To address a few things I guarantee will come up:
    1) But it stops toxicity and tearing people down.
    1a) Not really, people are able to spam the 'positive' things just like they do in every game that has this kind of system.

    2) Quick Chat spammers are getting punished, so this stops toxicity.
    2a) You know what else hands down punishments? The report system on the Help Desk. Super simple to fill out, requires minimal effort on your part, and you too can battle toxicity in typed chat.

    3) Everything you need to say is in Quick Chat in some form, just get good.
    3a) Read above, things can have many intentions, and honestly with how terrible some of these players are in CC? I'm glad they're having fun, at least I hope they are, but the simple fact that there isn't a clear 'Shot Call' option at all. Barest minimum let us create our own Quick Chats with 'approved' words.

    4) What approved words would you even suggest then?
    4a) Focus target, Stop chasing, Buffing <target>, Debuffing <target>, and others I'm sure people can think of.

    Side tangent, please make seeing who you're targeting not such a pain. You get this tiny indicator of who you're targeting on the character model, and a 'highlight' on their enemy list. Can we please just have a health bar or something far more noticeable?
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    Tobias_Azuryon's Avatar
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    Lyniere Azuryon
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    Mateus
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    I mean we have another topic pretty sure on the front page regarding quick chat changes. They need to put more options if they're not going to let us use chat fully.

    Help me!
    With you <t>
    Incoming Ambush!

    Things of this nature will help.

    If you don't think regular chat will be toxic one look at the matches where a guy just keeps spamming the quick chat bubble over and over again tells you more than enough.

    I think the quick chat system is better in the long run but needs FAR more options.
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    I just want an option to mute people who spam the same button repeatedly.
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    Shirala Ebonscale
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    Lamia
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    Dancer Lv 81
    I like the quick chat. If someone doesn't say hello I know that they are either new to PvP, stupid, or a jerk who doesn't care about working with the team. First impressions are everything.
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    Ilisidi Malguri
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    Crystalline Conflict is too fast to type-discuss strategy.

    I would like Quickchat to also be available in Frontlines, but with it's standard chat still available, because Frontlines is slow enough and large enough for some strategy disussion.

    And I want an option not tied to system sound to disable the quick chat sound notification.
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    Last edited by Ilisidi; 05-10-2022 at 01:48 PM.

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    Player
    ShiroeTengoku's Avatar
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    We have plenty of time pre-game to type up a simple strategy, or when you're dead and respawning. There are times that are available for it.
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    Armorer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shirala View Post
    I like the quick chat. If someone doesn't say hello I know that they are either new to PvP, stupid, or a jerk who doesn't care about working with the team. First impressions are everything.
    Thanks, I needs a good "yikes" laugh today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandudez View Post
    Thanks, I needs a good "yikes" laugh today.
    Case in point.
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    Raistlin Majere
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    1) Toxicity will escalate to unknown levels. I don't want people at base chatting how bad is everyone
    2) It will raise so many support tickets will be insane.

    If you don't think toxicity will be 10 times worse, u are delusional or never played other teamplay competitive games like MOBAs
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    Iyrnwaen Aispyrthota
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin View Post
    1) Toxicity will escalate to unknown levels. I don't want people at base chatting how bad is everyone
    2) It will raise so many support tickets will be insane.

    If you don't think toxicity will be 10 times worse, u are delusional or never played other teamplay competitive games like MOBAs
    This.

    There's ample precedent out there for what open PvP chat looks like.
    We don't need to guess. It's never constructive. It's always a dumpster fire.

    Quick Chat is missing a few options it needs, but it's fundamentally perfectly fine.
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