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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    I feel that so much. Act and cactbot are not just advantages but are crutches and unfair on console players. If you can't do ex/savage/ult without these tools then you are not good enough to be doing the content. I noticed immediately when cactbot broke after a patch once who in the static were using it because they kept messing up mechanics

    Do what us ps4 players do and learn mechanics. It will be better for you.
    Cactbot is cheating but how is ACT cheating lol? Knowing your damage number doesn't do anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    Cactbot is cheating but how is ACT cheating lol? Knowing your damage number doesn't do anything.
    Cactbot is built on top of ACT. They're related to each other
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    Cactbot is cheating but how is ACT cheating lol? Knowing your damage number doesn't do anything.
    I am convinced now people are just nitpicking at whatever floats their boat just because all the other fools are doing it. Like how is ACT cheating? /SMH. Not talking about you Skiros but the guy you replied to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darksummoner View Post
    I am convinced now people are just nitpicking at whatever floats their boat just because all the other fools are doing it. Like how is ACT cheating? /SMH. Not talking about you Skiros but the guy you replied to.
    It's the framework that the tools people are up in arms about are built on, also has been the subject of discussion because of the toxicity it generates when used incorrectly and to shame players.
    You cannot get rid of cactbot, or any of these other trigger and callout addons without also banning ACT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    It's the framework that the tools people are up in arms about are built on, also has been the subject of discussion because of the toxicity it generates when used incorrectly and to shame players.
    You cannot get rid of cactbot, or any of these other trigger and callout addons without also banning ACT.
    Their stance makes player culture so much more tolerable in this game. Playing WoW all but required add-ons so people could track how bad you were in their eyes and keep you out of whatever content was out. Having read these forums for a bit, I can guarantee if they were any softer on it half of you'd be making the game misery for the other half.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BingleNingle View Post
    Their stance makes player culture so much more tolerable in this game. Playing WoW all but required add-ons so people could track how bad you were in their eyes and keep you out of whatever content was out. Having read these forums for a bit, I can guarantee if they were any softer on it half of you'd be making the game misery for the other half.
    Yeah, I sure do enjoy the passive aggressive hostility present in this game because no one can outright call out anyone performing bellow the standards required to clear a duty.
    The "Improved culture" of 14 is a lie and anyone that wants to do anything more stressful then a roulette will be exposed to the reality of the situation real quick.

    Also, the toxicity of WoW does not come from DPS meters, as someone who's played it. it comes from the massive waste of time inherent in that games design, when you stumble at the end of a 40min run and lose everything.
    I have never once seen anyone be put on blast for low DPS unless they were straight up afk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CalamityTwo View Post
    Yeah, I sure do enjoy the passive aggressive hostility present in this game because no one can outright call out anyone performing bellow the standards required to clear a duty.
    The "Improved culture" of 14 is a lie and anyone that wants to do anything more stressful then a roulette will be exposed to the reality of the situation real quick.

    Also, the toxicity of WoW does not come from DPS meters, as someone who's played it. it comes from the massive waste of time inherent in that games design, when you stumble at the end of a 40min run and lose everything.
    I have never once seen anyone be put on blast for low DPS unless they were straight up afk.

    Then you sure as hell haven't played the game long enough then. I played that game for 17 longggggggg years, and let a group wipe for some reason, once or twice, and watch people try and call out the one that is low in DPS for the reason they wiped. Sorry, but I seen that scenario way too many times to believe what you just said. I get you may be trying to shame FFXIV, but using that example you just said won't work on one who has played WoW for that long and knows the ends and outs of it.
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    Last edited by Darksummoner; 05-10-2022 at 05:24 PM.