Yoshi P statement regarding third party tools

[Twizzlers]

ITT cheaters justifying cheating
should just be grateful they're even implementing popular tools as in-game features (marker presets and collectible checkmarks are two that come to mind)

[ForteNightshade]

ITT cheaters justifying cheating
should just be grateful they're even implementing popular tools as in-game features (marker presets and collectible checkmarks are two that come to mind)

I suppose living in California is cheating then.

[Packetdancer]

I suppose living in California is cheating then.

This is actually the example I usually use of the difference between "unfair" versus "cheating".

Is it cheating that I have a better connection than someone in Brazil or Paraguay, by virtue of living geographically far closer to the servers than they do? No, it's not cheating; it's the reality of how internet topography works. But is it fair that I get that better performance and can potentially double-weave as a result where the other player cannot? No, it's absolutely not fair.

It's why I have such mixed feelings on things like xivalexander and whatnot; they can demonstrably be used to cheat, which gives me an immediate knee-jerk reaction vehemently against them. But on the other hand, if it can be used to let someone in Paraguay play with the same performance I get out-of-box, thus leveling the playing field? I find that use-case harder to condemn.

(Honestly, I wish XIV would just do some compensation for latency natively. It's possible, as I've done it in multiplayer network code before -- and XIVAlexander and its ilk show it's hypothetically possible for XIV as well. But I grant it's a headache to do right, such that it compensates to put everyone on as much a level playing field as possible without also being able to be repurposed for cheating. I certainly won't claim my own implementations in the past were guaranteed to be 100% unexploitable; players are very creative at times.)

[Skiros]

ITT cheaters justifying cheating
should just be grateful they're even implementing popular tools as in-game features (marker presets and collectible checkmarks are two that come to mind)

You do realize that the marker system is a DOWNGRADE?

You can't put markers down in alliance raids mid-pull to herd groups into specific places now.

You can't use markers to indicate where Nael divebombs are going.

MFW "grateful" when they literally just neutered markers for everyone while people using the addon still suffer no consequences.

I hope some of you here realize that when they start banning these popular tools and implement their own versions, it'll be a downgrade that makes everyone worse than where we started.