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    Please ban everyone using mods.


    Yoshida has said they (mods, hacks, etc.) are illegal and there's no way players can justify their use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaOZ View Post
    Please ban everyone using mods.


    Yoshida has said they (mods, hacks, etc.) are illegal and there's no way players can justify their use.
    Here's one for you:

    The act of parsing should be permitted due to the nature of encounters having a hard enrage. It gives people an objective and numerical output so they can measure their performance with this, and it gives players who wish to improve a chance to do so.

    No, Stone Sky Sea is not an acceptable form due to the nature of it essentially being DPS in a vacuum. Now whether people are ultimately responsible when handling these statistics is an entirely different matter, but I personally don't see an issue unless people use it extensively to harass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaOZ View Post
    Please ban everyone using mods.


    Yoshida has said they (mods, hacks, etc.) are illegal and there's no way players can justify their use.
    Yes, SE. Please ban half your players, and don't improve the game. Surely the right answer for the use of mods is this. And don't ask yourself why so many people insist on installing this type of program, even though it's illegal. Don't loose time with this tipe of questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaOZ View Post
    Please ban everyone using mods.


    Yoshida has said they (mods, hacks, etc.) are illegal and there's no way players can justify their use.
    Seems like "someone" here needs to learn what the word "illegal" means. "contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law." for your interest and no the ToS are not the law. Yes there are countries where modding is illegal, japan one of these countries. But in the rest of the free world, where SE sells their game, this is not the case. That's why the modding community is present in NA/EU and not JP, where the stuff is not "illegal". It's against the ToS tho and SE has the right to their own property like a shop owner has the right to kick you out when you start painting the walls red cause you hate blue.

    But here is the trick, certain behavior is tolerated since the dawn of time around the globe cause it gives...money! And you know who likes money? Right! Shareholders! Managers! Investors! And you know what they all have in common? Right! They don't care about your hurt feelings! So better start chugging down fantasia like a catboi when male viera were released onto this world. Cause you clearly don't leave enough money in the cashshop to justify such actions, since all the roleplayers (which obviously use mods for obvious reasons) leave probably more money in the cashshop than the game makes in subs and as long as this is the case they will NEVER take actions against modding.

    But yeah it's fun throwing around wrong terms to create hysteria.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Seems like "someone" here needs to learn what the word "illegal" means. "contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law." for your interest and no the ToS are not the law. Yes there are countries where modding is illegal, japan one of these countries. But in the rest of the free world, where SE sells their game, this is not the case. That's why the modding community is present in NA/EU and not JP, where the stuff is not "illegal". It's against the ToS tho and SE has the right to their own property like a shop owner has the right to kick you out when you start painting the walls red cause you hate blue.

    But here is the trick, certain behavior is tolerated since the dawn of time around the globe cause it gives...money! And you know who likes money? Right! Shareholders! Managers! Investors! And you know what they all have in common? Right! They don't care about your hurt feelings! So better start chugging down fantasia like a catboi when male viera were released onto this world. Cause you clearly don't leave enough money in the cashshop to justify such actions, since all the roleplayers (which obviously use mods for obvious reasons) leave probably more money in the cashshop than the game makes in subs and as long as this is the case they will NEVER take actions against modding.

    But yeah it's fun throwing around wrong terms to create hysteria.
    None of those mods were mentioned in the post by Yoshi-p, he specifically called out mods that give an advantage in content (ACT and callout programs that work through ACT) and those that spoof packets (xivalexander and noclippy).
    Those are the ones being targeted, not model replacement mods that RPers use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    None of those mods were mentioned in the post by Yoshi-p, he specifically called out mods that give an advantage in content (ACT and callout programs that work through ACT) and those that spoof packets (xivalexander and noclippy).
    Those are the ones being targeted, not model replacement mods that RPers use.
    That is clear to me but you can well read that the one i quoted called for banning everyone using mods. Which is just a silly idea, most people are using mods nowdays, SE would have to ban more than half of their playerbase and every single community the players have build around the game. This would happen if SE introduces an anti cheat software, cause that software doesn't differentiates between people just running shaders to make their screenshots look nicer and people running scripts etc. to literally cheat in pvp. Would be like dropping a nuke on a city cause there is one criminal hiding between millions of people.

    I am also against cheaters ofc, they need to be targeted. Especially those ruining the fun for others, like in pvp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    None of those mods were mentioned in the post by Yoshi-p, he specifically called out mods that give an advantage in content (ACT and callout programs that work through ACT) and those that spoof packets (xivalexander and noclippy).
    Those are the ones being targeted, not model replacement mods that RPers use.
    Yoshida has also specifically mentioned texture mods during the Live Letter, and the very first highlighted statement says, "the use of third-party tools is strictly prohibited". Guess what texture mods are? He only specified others because they were more prevalent on streams but this was intended to be a blanket statement.

    With that said, I'll challenge the notion of noclippy giving an unfair advantage. Someone living in California literally has the same reduced ping noclippy provides. Meanwhile, someone on the East Coast will be at 80-100ms. An unfair advantage already exists because this game's netcode is abysmal. JP players never have to deal with ping issues for the most part. There's a reason Yoshida simply didn't believe Blood Weapon and Hypercharge weren't major issues despite massive complaints spanning years for both abilities being so heavily ping dependent.
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