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    VerdeLuck's Avatar
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehayem View Post
    Which is why I'm asking if ping reducers like ExitLag fall into this category, because a lot of players will be forced to play with near impossible ping as SE can't care enough to improve their latency.
    It probably is covered by that statement, those are going to be use at your own risk. I don't have much to back it up but those are in theory easier to discover from the server side by SE than something like ACT addons since they can see your information and how much ping you should have. If you're doing things that don't add up like casting before your animation lock should be over given your ping or location, that would be detectable on the server side if they're looking for it.
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarevok_Thordin View Post
    Personally with the lag compensation tools I hope that is some functionality I hope they put into the client, there is no reason not to and I know some people say they find it impossible to properly play some classes without it.
    Contrary to what has been going around neither one of those plugins actually "packet spoof". They cut into the artificial delay in a similar manner a lower ms does. They have the potential to do more but this requires completely altering what is open source code and obfuscating it in such a way as to go undetected by the launcher program. Considering how diligent they are monitoring that sort of thing, and that FFlogs will blacklist your entire character if it suspects an illegal log has been uploaded, nobody wants to try pushing that envelop even if they knew how.

    What Yoshida is more likely referring to here is location hacks like RMT bots that go out of bounds or "teleport" from one spot to the next.

    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    It probably is covered by that statement, those are going to be use at your own risk. I don't have much to back it up but those are in theory easier to discover from the server side by SE than something like ACT addons since they can see your information and how much ping you should have. If you're doing things that don't add up like casting before your animation lock should be over given your ping or location, that would be detectable on the server side if they're looking for it.
    They aren't going to do this because the end result would be banning almost their entire upper raid scene. These two plugins are among the most popular in the entire repository. They'd be banning tens of thousands of players, including a good amount of the content creators. It just isn't going to happen. Granted, you are correct that anyone using addons does so at their own risk. Everyone already knew that though.

    Quote Originally Posted by AziraSyuren View Post
    GNB was pretty unplayable for me before I installed XIVAlex too. The game's penchant for flashy animations really doesn't mesh well with that artificial lag.
    I forgot about GNB. My co-tank still hasn't given in yet but they've been tempted. Even at 90ms, all the weaving on GNB is just awful. The difference really is night and day.
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    Last edited by ForteNightshade; 05-10-2022 at 07:53 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Contrary to what has been going around neither one of those plugins actually "packet spoof". They cut into the artificial delay in a similar manner a lower ms does. They have the potential to do more but this requires completely altering what is open source code and obfuscating it in such a way as to go undetected by the launcher program. Considering how diligent they are monitoring that sort of thing, and that FFlogs will blacklist your entire character if it suspects an illegal log has been uploaded, nobody wants to try pushing that envelop even if they knew how.

    What Yoshida is more likely referring to here is location hacks like RMT bots that go out of bounds or "teleport" from one spot to the next.
    Fair enough, I forgot about those out of sheer despair that they never stop.
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    King Canadane
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    Cheaters are the worst and I hope they all get banned.
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    Caitlin Seraphim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klytania View Post
    I doubt you're getting 60fps while in 4K. Graphics cards for PC that cost more than a PS5 can barely do that.
    I am playing 90fps at 90 and my amd 6900xt isnt evenrunning at 100%. So i would say its definitely possible
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlinzulu View Post
    I am playing 90fps at 90 and my amd 6900xt isnt evenrunning at 100%. So i would say its definitely possible
    90fps at 90? What does that mean
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    Actually I lied. I do know of things that I'd like to see be put in the devs and that's all of the helpful housing decorating mods that people use. I would also like if they could somehow separate the camera when decorating in first person from your character. Not sure if there's a mod that does that. As working in tight corners or trying to get something into the correct place at times is hard. Especially since I'm not a PC player where trying to glitch certain items that are fussy can be difficult. I'd really like it if they would allow you to readjust things once they're at the height you want them at but didn't realize they were slightly at the wrong spot or if rotating them wouldn't get them facing the way you'd like them to. Heck even allowing us to resize things would be nice. I'd use those too tall for most housing spaces spiral staircase in my designs if they could be made shorter
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    Depravicus Mana
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    Isn't this the first time in the history of the game that he has acknowledged the packet loss mitigation tools? Something that should be implemented by default into the client for EVERYONE and yet still has not happened to this day. Its not even a hard fix. smh
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    Yasu Naoya
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    Quote Originally Posted by razzgrizz3 View Post
    Isn't this the first time in the history of the game that he has acknowledged the packet loss problem? Something that should be implemented by default into the client for EVERYONE and yet still has not happened to this day. Its not even a hard fix. smh
    It's been even on JP forums. See link here.

    If JP people are suffering packet loss and latency issues, then the problem is bigger than SE wants to acknowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehayem View Post
    It's been even on JP forums. See link here.

    If JP people are suffering packet loss and latency issues, then the problem is bigger than SE wants to acknowledge.
    As a fighting game fan, this wouldn't be the first time I have seen a community come up with a solution to packet loss, only to see the developers stubbornly refuse to implement it for years.
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