Yoshi P statement regarding third party tools

[CalamityTwo]

Their stance makes player culture so much more tolerable in this game. Playing WoW all but required add-ons so people could track how bad you were in their eyes and keep you out of whatever content was out. Having read these forums for a bit, I can guarantee if they were any softer on it half of you'd be making the game misery for the other half.

Yeah, I sure do enjoy the passive aggressive hostility present in this game because no one can outright call out anyone performing bellow the standards required to clear a duty.
The "Improved culture" of 14 is a lie and anyone that wants to do anything more stressful then a roulette will be exposed to the reality of the situation real quick.

Also, the toxicity of WoW does not come from DPS meters, as someone who's played it. it comes from the massive waste of time inherent in that games design, when you stumble at the end of a 40min run and lose everything.
I have never once seen anyone be put on blast for low DPS unless they were straight up afk.

[Voidedge_Ragna]

Its always gonna be the same ... and i quote

"As stated in the terms of service for FINAL FANTASY XIV: the use of third-party tools is strictly prohibited. Players who are determined to be using third-party tools will have their accounts suspended, or permanently banned for repeat offenses."

Okay, fair. next quote

"It goes without saying that we're aware of world races for high-end duties. As the developers, we're proud to have grown into one of the few games where they're held, and it delights us to see so many players participate as well as spectate with great interest."

right ... So you say you will ban those that use 3rd party tools, it does not say to which extend, it does not say "act is ok" it says straight basically anything 3rd party tool.

Obviously no one is gonna get sacked for it, so what do they expect "please don't do it, if you do we will be disappointed but still not do anything" No one is gonna care till SE bites the bullet and throws a major player under the bus and at this point it might be about time for an example because we have been on a downward spiral of.

"new addon? Sure let me get it, SE doesn't do anything anyway" and then we act confused about why there's fully automated players. Yes ACT alone doesn't do shit, but unless someone gets sacked nothing is ever gonna change anyway.

The absolute double standard here is such a bad take, look at the vids give them a 24h ban ... does not hurt them but sends a message that you actually care about what you post and not just fire fight against all the reports you get about ppl complaining about it.

[Skiros]

Cactbot is built on top of ACT. They're related to each other

Yes I know. But Vanilla ACT with just the plugin and a simple overlay isn't cheating.

Custom triggers could be considered cheating but that's no longer vanilla ACT.

Cactbot is far from vanilla ACT.

[Feayn]

I think I stay with only a half from the players on the side "ACT Cactbot etc. should be 100% ban"

We dont need ACT to be good. We dont need any third party tool.

[Sarevok_Thordin]

What gets me is the "Packing Spoofing Tools" mention. Does this mean they are targetting people who use lag compensation tools (For making MCH, RPR etc playable properly) or is there something more nefarious out there?

[Chopstix]

while i understand where yoshi p is coming from, i feel this is the wrong angle to take

mods should be embraced not prohibited or tolerated, these creators make the game better for a lot of ppl for free!!! essentially making improvements that the devs dont have to "waste" time on any more

hell it is rough to double weave on a 2.5 GCD with my 70ish ping in a game where double weaving is MANDATORY in hard content

healers need to perform a lot more actions to heal/buff specific individuals in their party while keeping uptime, much of which can be eliminated by mouseover actions that r queueable

several jobs have absolutely insane button bloat that mods help consolidate

ui perks for shields and buffs and stuff i dont even know about yet

list goes on and on, sky's the limit

if someone has a better play experience, they have more fun and can maybe perform a little bit better... how does that hurt ANYONE? This is a PVE game, if u r in a party u r a team that is working together

auto target and ownership check of items is quite frankly huge QoL, how long did that take to implement? how long will it take to devise in game alternatives for the most popular QoL mods? what about niche stuff that that is incredibly useful in a particular circle but not as widely used?

cheating is cheating, harassment is harassment, and bullying is bullying, those hurt u and r reportable and should be reported ... someone seeing that they have a juicy shield on their own HP bar, having an indicator on their castbar when they can move for a solid slidecast (which btw the game does not even tell u about), not having their camera automatically turn while running to the side on legacy control scheme, not having to use 30 something keybinds so they dont get carpal tunnel; these r as far from bullying, cheating and harassment as the next galaxy from ours

[AziraSyuren]

They're not going to do anything. This announcement was just their attempt to get JP players who were salty over not getting WF to shut up.

[Halobump]

I think this kind of clear message is important. There is a lot of confusion abou

Mods, however, I agree with the OP, are aspects of the game that people want to see. And like Yoshi mentioned, making these in an official form is a reasonable reaction. If a mod or a plugin can be made to augment the game for the better, then I believe there is justification to have that developed into the game.

OP talks about some aspects of jobs that are janky, and there is definitely scope to improve upon them, PvP-style combo buttons, for example, are something that would really help with button bloat. In my opinion, there is little difference between 1-2-3 and 1-1-1. Things like Slidecasting, well...that's only because of the game engine more than anything. Get rid of the inherent latency in the game, and you'll find loads of people might mess up their timing.

If the UI isn't good at displaying an important piece of information, especially if it helps the player read the screen, then I believe there is a developmental incentive to work on that.

As it stands at the moment, you can tell how many people are using some sort of callout tool, especially on patch days when most of these are not working. It defeats the point of a lot of challenges, no longer needing to look at the screen to work out what you are supposed to do. And that makes content boring. And that hurts other players.

Then you've got parsing, and that's a whole another beast of an issue which is pretty terrible all round and serves no purpose in the game other than to stroke egos and gatekeep.

[DezereDawn]

Then you've got parsing, and that's a whole another beast of an issue which is pretty terrible all round and serves no purpose in the game other than to stroke egos and gatekeep.

I was mostly agreeing with you until this moment, it's not egotistical or gatekeepy to not want to waste your time in a group that has 0 hope of clearing, nor is it a bad thing to want to strive to perfect your skills at a job you enjoy, the people who use these tools in the negative ways are few and far far between, and likely to be on the receiving end of a ban hammer within days of ever making it clear.
Meanwhile, these tools allow us as a playerbase to get an overall measure of our job's performance, how to optimize said performance, and general expectations for clears to a much more precise level than any in game tool allows.

Personally, i don't parse, i don't really care to participate in high end content myself and i'll never be a legend, but that's perfectly fine, i've never had a run in with someone who lambasted me via a parse, not once in my entire time playing this game, they're not common whatsoever.

[AziraSyuren]

They're not going to do anything. This announcement was just their attempt to get JP players who were salty over not getting WF to shut up.

Gee willikers, I was wrong about this one.

RIP to this game's streaming scene.