Yoshi P statement regarding third party tools

[Deedlit]

"Cheating" LMAO.

[Skiros]

I feel that so much. Act and cactbot are not just advantages but are crutches and unfair on console players. If you can't do ex/savage/ult without these tools then you are not good enough to be doing the content. I noticed immediately when cactbot broke after a patch once who in the static were using it because they kept messing up mechanics

Do what us ps4 players do and learn mechanics. It will be better for you.

Cactbot is cheating but how is ACT cheating lol? Knowing your damage number doesn't do anything.

[Packetdancer]

I suppose living in California is cheating then.

This is actually the example I usually use of the difference between "unfair" versus "cheating".

Is it cheating that I have a better connection than someone in Brazil or Paraguay, by virtue of living geographically far closer to the servers than they do? No, it's not cheating; it's the reality of how internet topography works. But is it fair that I get that better performance and can potentially double-weave as a result where the other player cannot? No, it's absolutely not fair.

It's why I have such mixed feelings on things like xivalexander and whatnot; they can demonstrably be used to cheat, which gives me an immediate knee-jerk reaction vehemently against them. But on the other hand, if it can be used to let someone in Paraguay play with the same performance I get out-of-box, thus leveling the playing field? I find that use-case harder to condemn.

(Honestly, I wish XIV would just do some compensation for latency natively. It's possible, as I've done it in multiplayer network code before -- and XIVAlexander and its ilk show it's hypothetically possible for XIV as well. But I grant it's a headache to do right, such that it compensates to put everyone on as much a level playing field as possible without also being able to be repurposed for cheating. I certainly won't claim my own implementations in the past were guaranteed to be 100% unexploitable; players are very creative at times.)

[Packetdancer]

I, Aylin Bielawska, an Astrologian on the Adamantoise server, pressed buttons in direct defiance of the healer design in FFXIV's general design modus operandi, and, in doing so, have seen relative success and reaped benefits. And I liked it.
And I would do it again, too.

That underlined part... ouch.

I mean, accurate, but ouch.

[Voidedge_Ragna]

Its always gonna be the same ... and i quote

"As stated in the terms of service for FINAL FANTASY XIV: the use of third-party tools is strictly prohibited. Players who are determined to be using third-party tools will have their accounts suspended, or permanently banned for repeat offenses."

Okay, fair. next quote

"It goes without saying that we're aware of world races for high-end duties. As the developers, we're proud to have grown into one of the few games where they're held, and it delights us to see so many players participate as well as spectate with great interest."

right ... So you say you will ban those that use 3rd party tools, it does not say to which extend, it does not say "act is ok" it says straight basically anything 3rd party tool.

Obviously no one is gonna get sacked for it, so what do they expect "please don't do it, if you do we will be disappointed but still not do anything" No one is gonna care till SE bites the bullet and throws a major player under the bus and at this point it might be about time for an example because we have been on a downward spiral of.

"new addon? Sure let me get it, SE doesn't do anything anyway" and then we act confused about why there's fully automated players. Yes ACT alone doesn't do shit, but unless someone gets sacked nothing is ever gonna change anyway.

The absolute double standard here is such a bad take, look at the vids give them a 24h ban ... does not hurt them but sends a message that you actually care about what you post and not just fire fight against all the reports you get about ppl complaining about it.

[VerdeLuck]

Cactbot is cheating but how is ACT cheating lol? Knowing your damage number doesn't do anything.

Cactbot is built on top of ACT. They're related to each other

[Skiros]

Cactbot is built on top of ACT. They're related to each other

Yes I know. But Vanilla ACT with just the plugin and a simple overlay isn't cheating.

Custom triggers could be considered cheating but that's no longer vanilla ACT.

Cactbot is far from vanilla ACT.

[Feayn]

I think I stay with only a half from the players on the side "ACT Cactbot etc. should be 100% ban"

We dont need ACT to be good. We dont need any third party tool.

[Sarevok_Thordin]

What gets me is the "Packing Spoofing Tools" mention. Does this mean they are targetting people who use lag compensation tools (For making MCH, RPR etc playable properly) or is there something more nefarious out there?

[Raoabolic]

this is cheating. You are using 3rd party controller to play on PC just like on consoles. Banned!

Wrong. I have the official Final Fantasy XIV™ Gamer Controller WITH the Minfillia AI Alexia attachment.