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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruisu View Post
    Personally, I disagree with the overall idea of nerfing BLM. However, they really need to make BLM not be the solution to everything. Give us something that has retarded magic defense/defense in general. Even the playing field, rather than destroying one job because it's better than others.

    Also most BLM players are actually pretty shit. So there's that, at least.
    Increasing magic defense of mobs is a nerf to MNK as well...

    Can we not go there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luwnax View Post
    Increasing magic defense of mobs is a nerf to MNK as well...

    Can we not go there?
    I...what?

    How is adding more content that doesn't revolve around BLMs a nerf to MNK? MNK hasn't been exactly terrible, you know. Aside from Cutter's Cry, I haven't seen an instance where Monk was inefficient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruisu View Post
    I...what?

    How is adding more content that doesn't revolve around BLMs a nerf to MNK? MNK hasn't been exactly terrible, you know. Aside from Cutter's Cry, I haven't seen an instance where Monk was inefficient.
    Seeing how you main MNK I don't have to explain how increasing mobs magic defense across the board (as you suggested) would be a direct nerf to MNKs DPS.

    I never said MNK was bad. I wouldn't main it if it was. I also never said MNK was inefficient or unwanted.
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    I'd just like to know exactly how much more the Devs will gut and destroy ARC/BRD before they're satisfied that no one will ever touch it again...

    (Light Shot shouldn't even be an issue to begin with had the devs not derped ARC AA and made it shoot a FOOKING ARROW INSTEAD OF SLAPPING THINGS IN THE FACE!)
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    Last edited by Kiroh; 05-24-2012 at 04:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    I'd just like to know exactly how much more the Devs will gut and destroy ARC/BRD before they're satisfied that no one will ever touch it again...
    o_O now I"m confused what exactly did they do to ARC/BRD aside from adding a recast to light shot when WS are used lol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    o_O now I"m confused what exactly did they do to ARC/BRD aside from adding a recast to light shot when WS are used lol?
    This update was just sort of another kick in the nuts after the complete gutting of ARC post 1.18 is all.

    (Yes, ARC was powerful pre-AA, no more so than WAR and BLM are now. Just that SE sort of decided to cap Archer in the knees with a baseball bat.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    o_O now I"m confused what exactly did they do to ARC/BRD aside from adding a recast to light shot when WS are used lol?
    Nothing to be confused about, you understood the change correctly.
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    nothing thats all the devs did
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    BLM itself doesn't need nerfing. the nerf to collusion indirectly nerfs BLM. BLMs are physically weaker than a paper bag, they are entitled to have high damage output.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    This update was just sort of another kick in the nuts after the complete gutting of ARC post 1.18 is all.

    (Yes, ARC was powerful pre-AA, no more so than WAR and BLM are now. Just that SE sort of decided to cap Archer in the knees with a baseball bat.)
    They are fine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    BLM itself doesn't need nerfing. the nerf to collusion indirectly nerfs BLM. BLMs are physically weaker than a paper bag, they are entitled to have high damage output.
    I don't see how their physical stats have anything to do with a reason why they should do high damage. I mean if they were to be stronger then the rest of the classes, it isn't because they can't hit mobs with a stick very hard. But I do agree they are fine. Black Mages have the ability to target a monsters weakness, if they nerf anything, it needs to be, like you said, indirect nerfs like collusion and MP song.
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