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  1. #1
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Have people mentioned Valens van Varro yet?

    I'm adding in Sicinius too. Just... Yeah no.

    Valens was an abusive tyrant who tortured children.
    Sicinius was a psychopatic scientist who tortured Hrothgars, hooked them into servant machines, and when his best test subject couldn't handle it anymore, he injected his memories onto other Hrothgar. And when THAT didn't stick, he took those Hrothgar and performed surgeries on them, disfiguring them into looking like the original test subject just so that the memories stuck.

    Like, that's messed up. Valens is disgusting and not even his death was cathartic. The way he treated his subjects was horrible, but doing it to kids was just the absolute worst.
    But Sicinius? That garbage got away scott-free. Lyon and Pagaga bust him out and he not only walks around freely, he has the original Bozjan weapons AND he's done the same to Hyurs. Turning THEM into someone else. And we're none the wiser, because it's all hush-hush. We never get to punch his teeth in. There was no justice like there "was" for Valens.
    Guys like those two make me feel like it would probably be in the best interests of the Eorzean Alliance to make sure the remaining legions aren't letting any loonies conduct similar experiments over in the still occupied provinces.
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    RobynDaBank's Avatar
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    Hope Sunflame
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    Twintania
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    I can't help wonder how the characters mentioned in this thread - Scions or not - would feel reading all of this and seeing their friend/foe WoLs talking like this about them. Reactions would be funny to see, especially of the Scions.
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    Mortal Fist

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    Jubei Murata
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    Lamia
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Minfilia

    There was the whole dynamic of her being my boss but she was really friendly and familiar with the WoL. On top of that she had her own connection with Hydaelyn, so I didn't know if Hydaelyn was trying to hook us up or something. I'm not interested lady. I just didn't know what she wanted from me and I was filled with anxiety every time she told me to return to the Waking Sands. I have to admit I breathed a sigh of relief when she was removed from the story.
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Imo there are 3 main categories for "disliking" a character:

    • A - the character is intentionally made to be dislikable: Asahi being a yandere, Fandaniel being Asahi with a Joker complex, Valens being a full blown psycopath, pretty much the entirety of Bozja...

    • B - the narrative screw the character over: Yda being actually Lyse and becoming the front and center of the resistance despite Raubahn being right there, Y'shtola being a walking exposition device with nearly no personality, even Zenos may go here cuz I feel they didn't know what to do with that guy from the very beginning.

    • C - the character is simply obnoxious or cringe, whether it was intentional or not: the constant infantilization of Lalafell characters like Tataru or Nanamo despite both being well into their 20's, or just about anyone in the Hildi questline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

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    Benedictus-zos Pius
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Thordan for letting Charibert kill Vaindreau.

    Zenos and Fandaniel for taking advantage of the civil war in Garlemald and destroying it in the process.

    Golbez for letting his fiends feast on Azdaja’s aether.

    Valens.

    Asahi and Yotsuyu’s adoptive parents. Makes you wonder what she could’ve become if her biological parents were alive. Likely her Tsuyu self.


    Also the Ala Mhigans who hurled rocks at Fordola and her family. Insufferable lot.
    (5)
    Last edited by ElizanderNorisse; 11-20-2022 at 06:00 PM.


    Petition to have the Garlean gunblade & armour added in the game:

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/450029-Adding-Garlean-Gunblade-Glam-in-the-Game?p=5748119#post5748119

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    Feline Good
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElizanderNorisse View Post
    Thordan for letting Charibert kill Vaindreau.

    Zenos and Fandaniel for taking advantage of the civil war in Garlemald and destroying it in the process.

    Golbez for letting his fiends feast on Azdaja’s aether.

    Valens.

    Asahi and Yotsuyu’s adoptive parents. Makes you wonder what she could’ve become if her biological parents were alive. Likely her Tsuyu self.


    Also the Ala Mhigans who hurled rocks at Fordola and her family. Insufferable lot.
    Okay and now we're discussing characters that you're actually supposed to despise because of their horrible actions in the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Okay and now we're discussing characters that you're actually supposed to despise because of their horrible actions in the story.
    And? The thread doesn’t specify if I should hate the protagonists only.
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    Petition to have the Garlean gunblade & armour added in the game:

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/450029-Adding-Garlean-Gunblade-Glam-in-the-Game?p=5748119#post5748119

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    Taterway Claws
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    Raiden
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Can I expose the true villain of the story?

    A horror that should never have existed.

    A blight on the landscape.

    A curse on all our eyesight.


    Thanc's dodgy ponytail.


    Here I am about to cut it off when he is not looking and/or is too drunk to notice.


    Gonna cut off that ponytail ...
    (5)
    Just a little lalaporrit. Found under a sunbed in Costa. Looking for his family. Main emotional state is worldly bemusement. Little brother of Medley Claws.

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    Carin Eri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taterway View Post
    Can I expose the true villain of the story?

    A horror that should never have existed.

    A blight on the landscape.

    A curse on all our eyesight.


    Thanc's dodgy ponytail.


    Here I am about to cut it off when he is not looking and/or is too drunk to notice.


    Gonna cut off that ponytail ...
    Okay, that Lala expression is just perfect!
    (4)

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    Tuul Muluk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taterway View Post
    Your Lala is so precious.
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