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    No one is drawing any conclusions between how atmospheric ether may have had an influence on what the sundered humanity eventually became? It seems very possible to me. We know Ether has alteration properties on individuals when an overwhelming amount suffuses into a being. These Lesser humans (the sundered humanity), don't have as much either as their original bodies and thus would likely be vulnerable to etheric alteration by their dense ether-infused environments. We don't know where each race originally lived and its ether levels but it very much may have altered their physiology over time. Sun Tribe Miq'ote for example likely came from a hot sunny place, hence their constricted pupils though since they have duller teeth than the Moon Tribe perhaps they didn't hunt with their natural weapons as often and ate mostly grown foods, whereas the Moon Tribe lived in darker, colder environments and thus kept or developed fangs and wider pupils for better hunting at night. We also know people from the past had the ability to transform, perhaps some bastardized version of this trait is what caused all post sundering people to mutate into their current racial equivalents?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selvokaz View Post
    No one is drawing any conclusions between how atmospheric ether may have had an influence on what the sundered humanity eventually became? It seems very possible to me. We know Ether has alteration properties on individuals when an overwhelming amount suffuses into a being. These Lesser humans (the sundered humanity), don't have as much either as their original bodies and thus would likely be vulnerable to etheric alteration by their dense ether-infused environments. We don't know where each race originally lived and its ether levels but it very much may have altered their physiology over time. Sun Tribe Miq'ote for example likely came from a hot sunny place, hence their constricted pupils though since they have duller teeth than the Moon Tribe perhaps they didn't hunt with their natural weapons as often and ate mostly grown foods, whereas the Moon Tribe lived in darker, colder environments and thus kept or developed fangs and wider pupils for better hunting at night. We also know people from the past had the ability to transform, perhaps some bastardized version of this trait is what caused all post sundering people to mutate into their current racial equivalents?
    By "humanity" do you mean all of the Spoken including the "beastmen" tribes? Cuz even the Eorzea encyclopedia considers the "beastmen" as mere men or "humans" if you will(any race that is sapient really).
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...encyclopaedia/

    I'd say that the best term for the most human looking races is demi-humans. Not to forget on the fact that these terms are never used in the First to begin with, and we do know for a fact that these terms were first used in Ul-daah for political reasons. Same for the Garleans who call anyone who isn't them as "savages" and "barbarians". I do agree that the aether did play a big role in shaping the sapient races of the world among other things though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strongfat900 View Post
    By "humanity" do you mean all of the Spoken including the "beastmen" tribes? Cuz even the Eorzea encyclopedia considers the "beastmen" as mere men or "humans" if you will(any race that is sapient really).
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    I'd say that the best term for the most human looking races is demi-humans. Not to forget on the fact that these terms are never used in the First to begin with, and we do know for a fact that these terms were first used in Ul-daah for political reasons. Same for the Garleans who call anyone who isn't them as "savages" and "barbarians". I do agree that the aether did play a big role in shaping the sapient races of the world among other things though.
    Nah, im pretty much talking about anything that can reason higher than, eat, sleep, mate. XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selvokaz View Post
    Nah, im pretty much talking about anything that can reason higher than, eat, sleep, mate. XD
    And "beastmen" can't? rofl. The "beastmen" are as sapient as the "wandering races" of Eorzea, my dude. The term, humanity, in FFXIV is pretty loose of a term really which is why it's replaced by terms like the Spoken.
    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.p...ASmeerpARabbit

    Eat, sleep and mate are things that all animals do, but there's a difference between Sapient and non-Sapient creatures including in RL like with humans and non-human animals. I remember Yoshi said something that he wanted to abandon these terms in the FFXIV from some live letter in the past, partly because he wanted to remove FFXIV from FFXI's shadow when he became director of the game.
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