Simplify 1-2-3 combos and reduce button bloat

[Petite_Blanche]

I concur, the nature of FFXIV's "Proactive" combos means you know exactly what you'll be doing for the next 20 minutes in any fight. If you get rid of the main 1-2-3 you'll literally be playing an idle game in PvE, where fights are scripted and you know *exactly* what your opponent will do next.

PvP is a different beast, because you're not trying to beat yourself, you're trying to beat another person, so simplicity of toolkit is a boon.

[Arohk]

There's only one job on which it doesn't, Monk... because Monk doesn't even have any literal combos, let alone a "1-2-3"; it is therefore clearly not the subject of this suggestion.

It works for the 3 button AOE combo, you can put the 3 AOE skills into one makro and and spam that, they will roate as you change stance.

[Arohk]

I concur, the nature of FFXIV's "Proactive" combos means you know exactly what you'll be doing for the next 20 minutes in any fight. If you get rid of the main 1-2-3 you'll literally be playing an idle game in PvE, where fights are scripted and you know *exactly* what your opponent will do next.

Doesn't change the fact we got a button bloat problem, there are a lot of skills that can be merged into one button, for example Black Mages Leylines.

[Raikai]

They will have to, eventually to make room for new things. Some jobs are fine... others are coming near to a wall.

It's either that or submit the jobs to an ovehaul. I guess people don't realize that the kind of vertical progression that XIV has will cause action bloat eventually if things are just being added on top of other things.

Unless, of course, they would be content to just get new animations and/or minor QoL via trait upgrades.

[Lustre]

I can already play the game with one hand, I'd rather not be able to play with one finger.

[Ransu]

They will have to, eventually to make room for new things. Some jobs are fine... others are coming near to a wall.

It's either that or submit the jobs to an ovehaul. I guess people don't realize that the kind of vertical progression that XIV has will cause action bloat eventually if things are just being added on top of other things.

Unless, of course, they would be content to just get new animations and/or minor QoL via trait upgrades.

We have significantly less skills than during HW (seriously, just go look up 3.0 DRG and see how much has been removed/changed from them and that's ignoring all the class shared skills removed like goad for example). There is no action bloat problem.

[Tlamila]

Yes please, this game has been having a hge bloat for years and it only gets worse.
See Paladin, since the bar was already full, they added new actions to the very same button, instead of requiring new ones, and it works just fine.
Honestly, having to press 1-2-3 instead of 1-1-1 doens't make the game harder in any form or shape nor more engaging. It's just hoarder's clutter.

[Raikai]

We have significantly less skills than during HW (seriously, just go look up 3.0 DRG and see how much has been removed/changed from them and that's ignoring all the class shared skills removed like goad for example). There is no action bloat problem.

You're right, there is no action bloat problem... today. But like I said (and maybe I didn't make it clear enough), there's gonna be bloat at some point. For some, earlier than others.

[Ransu]

Yes please, this game has been having a hge bloat for years and it only gets worse.
See Paladin, since the bar was already full, they added new actions to the very same button, instead of requiring new ones, and it works just fine.
Honestly, having to press 1-2-3 instead of 1-1-1 doens't make the game harder in any form or shape nor more engaging. It's just hoarder's clutter.

No, but it makes it more boring. If you only want to press 2 buttons, but play new world or something.

You're right, there is no action bloat problem... today. But like I said (and maybe I didn't make it clear enough), there's gonna be bloat at some point. For some, earlier than others.

Why do you think they keep doing the current upgrade path with talents changing old skills to new skills? Its not a problem with how they are doing it right now. Its not a problem now nor will it be in the future.

[Arohk]

I can already play the game with one hand, I'd rather not be able to play with one finger.

show us how you manage 30 hotkeys and move around at the same time with one hand, i am curious.