Been seeing a lot of doomsaying in forums/in-game lately

[DubiousDisk]

Is everyone okay, does anyone wanna talk, like for serious is everyone doing okay, need a break or anything?

[Atelier-Bagur]

There's some good points made here and there but its mostly just people and their hot takes.

<sigh> and now I'm gonna be labeled as a toxic positive person...great...

[Denji]

If there are a lot of unhappy people then something needs to be addressed.

Like, I'm sorry but... Unhappy people on this scale isn't just a coincidence. It isn't a "loud niche" or clique. People are welcome to argue whether or not said unhappiness is being expressed constructively but this isn't something I believe can be handwaved away.

[Jeeqbit]

I think the Doomsaying is really just on the forums. I don't see it in the game at all. Not in NN, linkshells, FC, parties I join for farming, BLU, maps or hunts. They are all having fun.

I've seen people talk about their frustrations about healers in the game for years but that's about it.

[Denji]

I think the Doomsaying is really just on the forums. I don't see it in the game at all. Not in NN, linkshells, FC, parties I join for farming, BLU, maps or hunts. They are all having fun.

I've seen people talk about their frustrations about healers in the game for years but that's about it.

I've had the opposite. I've seen a lot of people be unhappy about PVP-related nonsense and Viera/Hroths feeling disgruntled about being given the shaft once again.

[KageTokage]

I think things just hit a breaking point after the whole housing debacle, though there's always been unified shades of discontent with virtually every aspect of the game for one reason or another.

Some people really need to realize that's not a bad thing though, and that the game does have genuine issues that are being mishandled if not outright ignored for whatever reason.

[Atelier-Bagur]

I think the Doomsaying is really just on the forums. I don't see it in the game at all. Not in NN, linkshells, FC, parties I join for farming, BLU, maps or hunts. They are all having fun.

I've seen people talk about their frustrations about healers in the game for years but that's about it.

Pretty much how I feel. I mean you do see a bit of it leak such as hrothgar hairs/lottery fiasco and even job design into more open media outlets like twitter and even YT but most of those same outlets tend to focus on people sharing interests with the game itself, characters, fan art etc and that I see a heck a lot more than people being generally "unhappy" as some like to believe.

Its more so people feel the need to have their opinions universally validated which is sad and unrealistic. The official FFXIV Forums is really just one outlet of reception and since people usually use this as an outlet for basic feedback and complaints this is what you tend to see most often. I bet if you go back to all the previous threads since the start of 2.0, the forum's attitude would be....mostly unchanged lol. People still complain and feel unhappy since day flippin 1

Im not saying this to downplay people wanting to give their thoughts...well sorta kinda not really. It complicated. But at this point you learn that this is just the nature of these forums and really shouldnt be expecting lots of praise for the game here. And like I said, some of the feedback I find here and there is overall good and should be taken to consideration.

[EaraGrace]

If there are a lot of unhappy people then something needs to be addressed.

Like, I'm sorry but... Unhappy people on this scale isn't just a coincidence. It isn't a "loud niche" or clique. People are welcome to argue whether or not said unhappiness is being expressed constructively but this isn't something I believe can be handwaved away.

I have yet to find a general forum for a game that isn’t filled with complaints. Whether we can extrapolate anything from it is questionable.

[IdowhatIwant]

From what Yoshi P has said, this is what we are supposed to do. Go on the forums, and discuss things we like and dislike as feed back for them to create better content.

I think a lot of this doom and gloom has been that this expansion has had a lot of issues so far. You had the crazy queue times at launch, the housing issue, and class changes and reworks that are controversial. While many players think that this has been the best expansion story so far, others think it has been the worst. So I can see why people are vocally upset, with what all has been dealt with this expansion.

Outside of that, it feels more concrete than last expansion that the devs are going in a direction with the game that divides the player base as well. Some people like the simpler job design and more accessibility while others find it is affecting content they enjoy. So there is a lot of controversy over all. I will leave it with what Denji Said

If there are a lot of unhappy people then something needs to be addressed.

Like, I'm sorry but... Unhappy people on this scale isn't just a coincidence. It isn't a "loud niche" or clique. People are welcome to argue whether or not said unhappiness is being expressed constructively but this isn't something I believe can be handwaved away.

[Atelier-Bagur]

From what Yoshi P has said, this is what we are supposed to do. Go on the forums, and discuss things we like and dislike as feed back for them to create better content.

I think a lot of this doom and gloom has been that this expansion has had a lot of issues so far. You had the crazy queue times at launch, the housing issue, and class changes and reworks that are controversial. While many players think that this has been the best expansion story so far, others think it has been the worst. So I can see why people are vocally upset, with what all has been dealt with this expansion.

Outside of that, it feels more concrete than last expansion that the devs are going in a direction with the game that divides the player base as well. Some people like the simpler job design and more accessibility while others find it is affecting content they enjoy. So there is a lot of controversy over all. I will leave it with what Denji Said

When is there ever not controversy? Didnt I hear people actually complain of the state of Shadowbringers? Despite being lauded as the best expansion this game had, a lot of people here still had their complaints? I dont even want to know how the forums handled Stormblood, and I'm sure Heavensward and ARR era days were just as negative and bad. Basically I believe there never was a time in these forums where "everyone was content and satisfied" otherwise we wouldnt even have this game constantly improve.