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  1. #1
    Player
    Gemina's Avatar
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    Dravania
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    Gemina Lunarian
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    They have done some things to help DPS players not rely solely on DF queues to level. There are FATEs, tribe quests, daily hunts, Squadrons, Trusts, PoTD/HoH, and they will eventually expand the duty support system into HW and SB leveling dungeons. I am aware that the other options aren't ideal, and just not as fun as running a dungeon with other peeps. It is what it is though. There are just far more players running as DPS jobs at any given time, and there are never enough tanks and healers to accommodate them all. This is why increasing the number of DPS players from 2 to 3 won't do anything, and might even have an adverse effect.

    If it is any consolation, just about any and all solo activity is far better as a DPS job. When engaging enemies solo, they get to utilize more of their kits than tanks and healers as a lot of their skills are there to support a party. And considering MSQ solo fights are designed so any job can complete them, doing them as a DPS makes them far more exciting and fun to do. Makes me want to start up a NG+ to do the new Cape Westwind and Lahabrea battles.

    Just stick it out like everyone else. Hopefully with shorter queue times in the near future.
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    Major_Valtiel's Avatar
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    Valtiel Lupicus
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 60
    Just, please stop suggesting this kind of crap. The game is already easy enough as it is, it doesn't need anything else throwing it's balance out of whack just because you can't be arsed to actually do something else while waiting.
    And the waiting is not that bad. I mostly play past peak hours and never had to wait more than 5-7min for roulettes as dps. Jesus christ, get some help if you have waiting anxiety. It used to be MUCH worse before the tank/healer got changed so any brain-dead scrub could have the guts to pick it up.
    It's amazing how all these new people love coming to the forums thinking they know better and always suggest the most ludicrous things. The game keeps loosing more and more gameplay nuances at every patch, it really is about time just stop throwing suggestions around so the game can cater to your oh so special needy needs.

    It's like dealing with toxic positivity. We who take the game a bit more serious are always the bad guys.
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    Colt47's Avatar
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    Uldah
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    Kan Himaa
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    Think the issue they have right now is that tanks and healers are needed so much more than DPS, the people who do play tanks and healers have leveled every single tank and healer to 90 already. I'm an omni-tank and it's all thanks to instant queues and riding on free bonus gil while laughing all my way to 90, and it's approx the same thing with healers.

    The only point where I feel DPS even have a presence in determining an outcome in this game is at true end game content with enrage timers, otherwise they are worthless wisps that wander about without any sense of purpose except to get annoyed by how they die due to having paper thin armor. Not that I blame Black Mages for dying at lower levels since they don't even get triple cast until well into the level progression.

    Every single dps, even ones that parse pink, are worthless. They have no mechanical function at all in the game that makes them useful except to reach arbitrary dps checks. They can't even heal anyone, they die from three to four hits on a GOOD day, they waste tens of thousands of gil on "name your main stat" tinctures being churned out by millionaire crafters and put themselves into poverty, and somehow the magic dps and melee dps aren't dead yet from a diet of sweet rolls and cheese burgers, which also cost a lot of gil and are manufactured by millionaire crafters. The only purpose worthless DPS scum have is to be a poor, destitute beggar that feed the financial appetites of alchemists and culinarians, with a once in a blue moon craft-a-thon gear making spree leading to fortunes for the other crafters, who are also living similarly useless lives except they can at least cling to the fact they make glamour items.
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    Last edited by Colt47; 05-08-2022 at 06:27 AM.

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    Silverbane's Avatar
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    Z'nnah Silverbane
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    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Colt47 View Post
    Think the issue they have right now is that ... the people who do play tanks and healers have leveled every single tank and healer to 90 already.
    I started my fourth new character last weekend, leveling SCH, WAR and some WHM.
    I am enjoying playing the MSQ from the start, it's like re-reading a good book from years ago.
    Everyone with a regular subscription has this option.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colt47 View Post
    Every single dps, even ones that parse pink, are worthless ... They can't even heal anyone ...
    Not at all true.
    For example, Dancers have Healing Waltz, which does a substantial amount of healing to them, their dance partner, and anyone near either of them. And at least some DPS have damage reduction debuffs (e.g. Dancer's Shield Samba, Reaper's Feint) which reduces the need for healing.
    Furthermore, as most experienced players already know, Summoners and Red Mages can resurrect players.
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    Payadopa's Avatar
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 71
    You get EXP stupidly fast in this game. What are you on about? The armory, FC, food and earring buff along with DR and so on is more than enough. And if you don't like the queues do a trust.
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    Player
    Colt47's Avatar
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    Kan Himaa
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    Naw, it's simply the fact that some folks cannot come to terms with the smoldering despair of DPS roles.
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 100
    DPS queues have not bothered me in the ~9 years I've been in Eorzea. Don't just "sit" in the DPS queue. Craft, gather, seek daily hunt marks, FATEs, etc etc. I can't say I'm ever "sitting" in a DPS queue unless I choose to. Which probably means I've turned the volume way up and I'm cleaning the house while waiting for the queue. If you are staring at the screen for 15-20 minutes waiting for the queue to pop, you are doing it wrong.
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    Tlamila's Avatar
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    Ainslie Tinley
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    It's not just a matter of role popularity.
    There are 4 tanks, 4 healers, and how many dpses, job -wise?
    When the number of classes is not balanced, of course queues also won't be.

    That said, queue disparity is not that huge.
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    Stasya Astolfofangirl
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 100
    If only trust npc's were not complete trash that can't aoe and also completly stops attacking after avoiding aoe.
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    If only trust npc's were not complete trash that can't aoe and also completly stops attacking after avoiding aoe.
    It's like that on purpose...they dont want the trusts to be better than playing with players. I'd they made trusts better people would just stop queuing normally. Trusts are just there for story players.
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    Last edited by Ransu; 08-07-2022 at 08:35 AM.

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