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  1. #1
    Player
    Cythil's Avatar
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    Xiri Saffa
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    Gladiator Lv 30

    I basically just need someone to tell me what Job to play

    So let me explain. I have trouble deciding what to play in pretty much any game that has classes, or in this case jobs. Even when you can switch between them at will because I like to pick one thing and stick with it till I reach Max level or whatever the games equivalent is. I also like going through games main stories as one class because it makes it feel more cohesive I guess.

    This issue of mine is especially prevalent in MMOs. Back when I played WoW when I needed to pick a new class to level bc my guild didn't need healers and that was the only reason I was my class, I entered an endless loop trying to pick a new one until BFA coming out forced me to play Demon Hunter cause it was the only one I could get to Max level fast enough. Now that I've moved onto this game I've encountered a similar issue despite the fact that I could play all the jobs on a single character. I want to pick one to go through the whole MSQ as. I got this Gladiator I have set as my forum character to 30 but since the server I originally planned to play on became uncongested and 30 didn't take long to reach, I decided to just start over.

    I've got a few classes I'm interested in, but every time I narrow it down, another one catches my eye (for example: Ninja rework announced, no longer want to play it until I see how it is reworked. But now Monk got QoL so I might want to play that.)

    So now I'm currently stuck trying to decide whether to play Paladin, Monk, Bard or Black Mage.

    Paladin has cool looking gear and gameplay wise looks pretty fun. But the fact that it's a tank leaves me conflicted because it gives shorter queues but leading groups and setting the pace has never really been my thing. Plus I like to focus on dealing damage usually.

    Monk's greased lighting speeding up the gcd is interesting and the forms instead of combos is quite cool. Not really sure I like the fact that ever attack has positional requirements though as that seems like it might get a bit annoying.

    Bard I really like because it is highly mobile. No cast times and at a range. The fact that you rotate between 3 songs and don't really have a set rotation because of RNG also seems kinda cool. I'm just a bit worried about said RNG because not getting procs likely feels terrible. Also I've heard the class is undergoing a bit of an identity crisis currently being more Ranger than Bard.

    Black Mage interests me simply because of its animation, as they seem to be some of the coolest in the game. The big damage numbers also don't hurt. And I am a huge fan of the whole powerful mage archetype in fantasy. However, not really a huge fan of cast times. While having to stand still itself isn't a problem, the fact that literally any movement or too much damage cancels the cast just annoys me. I understand that it's how casters are balanced but it doesn't change the fact that it doesn't feel good to lose casts because of a mechanic or even worse because you accidently tapped a movement key.

    So yeah, I basically need somebody or multiple somebodys to just take a look at the 4 classes I'm interested in and just go "Play that one" because I'm never gonna be able to decide on my own. Thanks.
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    MrKusakabe's Avatar
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    Zedek Kusakabe
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    Zodiark
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    Red Mage Lv 92
    This is a dilemma you have to sort out yourself.


    It will eventualy make "click" and you settle for a certain profession. I am here since 2013, I started as Bard, then studied Black Magic. As compensation for the killing, I've enlisted as Scholar. Then went I pensioned myself after the Garelean army was "defeated"/fought off in 2015...


    Then, 3 months ago, it made "click" and I found the profession that I absolutely love...(See signature). My hype for the Red Mage does not wear off. It is burning like an eternal fire since I turned Level 70 and received my Duelist set and the Murgleis with the Crystal - it was the 5th of June - and the hype is as fresh as on day #1. Everyday I login, I see my Lalafell in his attire and know that I don't want to be anything else (beside Scholar). When "the click" happens, you will know and feel it. A guy from my former FC turned into a massive Gunbreaker freak over night.


    I think what also might help is the same thing that helps with sentient beings: Attachment. When I was trough Heavensward, I did that as Scholar. I played Scholar, I progressed the story as Scholar, I saw myself in the cutscene as Scholar - that made me love my secondary profession and "bonded" it to me; in no way I would want to be a White Mage anymore now. The amounts of cool dungeon runs, of close-call boss fights and the party-saving heals I did as Red Mage is bonding me now to that profession.

    You, however, ask us basically to repeat the pros and cons you have already figured out yourself. That is like asking as what flavour of ice cream you should eat: The creamy chocolade, or the strong lemon ice cream, or maybe the fruity apple? They all come with calories and diabetes, but it is up to you what you feel like enjoying the most.


    Another problem with this kind of selection influed by others is that you will still not be satisfied, because the real love towards a gameplay style comes from the inside. I forgot what that phenomena is called, but you have this very often in other aspects or in other situations. For example, this is a situation you might know: You don't know what songs you want to listen to, so you press "Shuffle" or "Random" (on these old JVC CD players). So you let the device pick a song for you. But you immediately press NEXT, and NEXT, and NEXT. So you immediately are unhappy with the choice of the device because your soul and brain want something else. "Zapping" is another of these things: You don't know what you want to watch, so you zap back and forth but never settle for a programme. You want to watch sports, but a documentary. If you do a coinflip now, you will zap back and forth anyways later...



    Sincerely,
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    Last edited by MrKusakabe; 08-11-2019 at 09:20 PM. Reason: "Lemonade ice cream", yeah, such thing exists!

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    Elise Hamilton
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Tank or Healer is great and offers tons of rewards on the duty roullete scene and fast queues. Melee DPS is probably the worst.
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Why not all of them?
    Play all 4, see which one clicks via Gameplay and how fun you find it.
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    Nicodemus Mercy
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    Midgardsormr
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    Sage Lv 100
    It sounds to me like Archer/Bard wouldn't be a bad choice. It's not a tank so no leadership role required, it has instant on the move attacks, no real combos or positionals to worry about, offers group support and is generally not bad.

    For a caster dps I would say Red Mage might fit your tastes but it requires you to get to 50 on another job first to unlock. With that said, while it does have cast times, it also has lots of instant casting (basically every other cast is instant) giving you a great deal of mobility. It can also heal and res making it very versatile.

    For some real value though maybe try going with the Arcanist class to start since at 30 you unlock both the Summoner (dot-centric caster dps) and Scholar (healer) jobs. It's basically like leveling two jobs at once because its all based on your arcanist level. So no matter which you take to max level the other will also be maxed. It's handy for taking advantage of shorter queues or "adventurer in need" bonuses as a healer too.
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    Nonni Brilante
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    Paladin Lv 60
    So this is a problem I've experienced for all of the nearly six years I've been playing this game, and I assure you, whenever someone tells me anything along the lines of "play what you want", it makes me want to take whatever they're using to play the game and cave their skull in with it just to prove that there's nothing in it.

    For Paladin, it's still the go-to job for learning how to tank. While I probably wouldn't recommend you picking it off the bat, I'd say take a look at it after leveling something else.

    With Monk, the positionals aren't too terrible to work with, and unlike other melee jobs, it's nowhere near as punishing messing up a positional on a Monk compared to other melee jobs. Of all the jobs you list, if I were you, I'd go with Monk; it might take a while to pick up and for everything to click, but it's in a really good place and fun to play.

    RNG on Bard isn't as big of a deal as it might seem, and the RNG actually tips more in your favor as you get near max level. It's another solid choice, and the "identity" issue is also nothing to really concern yourself over.

    While Black Mage does have that ordeal of cast times, but it also has a couple of ways to work around it. It's a lot better nowadays, but probably won't be up your alley.

    Hope all that helps!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    So this is a problem I've experienced for all of the nearly six years I've been playing this game, and I assure you, whenever someone tells me anything along the lines of "play what you want", it makes me want to take whatever they're using to play the game and cave their skull in with it just to prove that there's nothing in it.

    For Paladin, it's still the go-to job for learning how to tank. While I probably wouldn't recommend you picking it off the bat, I'd say take a look at it after leveling something else.

    With Monk, the positionals aren't too terrible to work with, and unlike other melee jobs, it's nowhere near as punishing messing up a positional on a Monk compared to other melee jobs. Of all the jobs you list, if I were you, I'd go with Monk; it might take a while to pick up and for everything to click, but it's in a really good place and fun to play.

    RNG on Bard isn't as big of a deal as it might seem, and the RNG actually tips more in your favor as you get near max level. It's another solid choice, and the "identity" issue is also nothing to really concern yourself over.

    While Black Mage does have that ordeal of cast times, but it also has a couple of ways to work around it. It's a lot better nowadays, but probably won't be up your alley.

    Hope all that helps!
    This does help a lot thanks. I think I'll be going with Monk then if it's positionals aren't as punishing as other melee because that was my primary concern. I do like the look of Bard and will certainly play it at some point, I don't really think starting with the RNG class is the right call for me. Thanks!
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    Nonni Brilante
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Cythil View Post
    I do like the look of Bard and will certainly play it at some point, I don't really think starting with the RNG class is the right call for me. Thanks!
    It's really not the "RNG class" (Dancer holds that title nowadays) since that component no longer makes the bulk of Bard damage these days. It also used to be a lot worse back when it was more reliant on gear, but now that it's a flat amount (I want to say 40% off of dot ticks and then other skills later on), it doesn't feel so bad.

    Monk I still recommend over Bard though since it's in a REALLY good place right now and the story for it is a bit better.
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    Blaise Darkstar
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    Black Mage Lv 65
    Quote Originally Posted by Cythil View Post
    This does help a lot thanks. I think I'll be going with Monk then if it's positionals aren't as punishing as other melee because that was my primary concern. I do like the look of Bard and will certainly play it at some point, I don't really think starting with the RNG class is the right call for me. Thanks!
    I haven’t played as monk yet, I started out as BLM, and I like it a lot. But once you unlock SAM I suggest giving it a try if you end up liking mDPS. I’ve had a lot of fun with SAM. It has a lot of options: high single target dmg, aoe, gap closers, a bit of ranged option. It’s the most fun class I’ve played.
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    What do you have the most fun playing? /thread
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