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  1. #1
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    DixieBellOCE's Avatar
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    Dixie Bell
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    Ravana
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    Delete the Mentor system or rework it.

    Right now it serves no purpose, 90% of mentors you meet are stuck up individuals that will strike out at you for no reason because their ego has gone to their heads.

    Either start banning Mentors that abuse the title/crown or just get rid of the system all together since its so outdated and abused.
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    Vencio Luirex
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    Mentor system is a joke & never needed,

    Hell we have youtube guides, wikis, social media enough to warrant help on the way whenever needed + FCs & discords with the right helpful individuals,

    PS: waste of resources; it created more of an even toxic chat environment akin to WoW
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    Niobe Elakha
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    Shiva
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Sounds more like a you problem if "90% of mentors you meet are stuck up individuals that will strike out at you for no reason". I can count on one hand the unpleasant encounters I have had with mentors in recent years, all in all the system is mostly helpful for sprouts I'd say.
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    Vencio Luirex
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    Has it really?

    How is it that’s reputable in being contradicting than what it’s mean to be?

    If anything there shouldn’t be a mentor system.

    Anyone’s willing to help a sprout regardless & sprouts are also encouraged to learn along in the mean on their own accord through trial & error (plus the use of social media guide sorts & our forums),
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  5. #5
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Sorry excuses for mentors aside, the system is kind of fundamentally broken when most of the 100 slots in Novice Network are occupied by non-mentors who just wanted the crown and related achievements and have no interest in actually helping people.
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    Khit Amariyo
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    Leviathan
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    The problem isn't that mentors are universally bad, honestly. The biggest problem is that you have plenty of folks who wear the crown like a status symbol, and the mentors actively trying to be helpful are generally so disgusted by the "LOOK I HAVE A CROWN I'M SPECIAL" crowd that none of us ever turn on the status except when Mentor Roulette forces us to. Which only further reinforces the crown's bad reputation.

    The only reasons I'm a mentor is because being one lets me help answer questions on our Novice Network, and opens up Mentor Roulette (because I actually do enjoy helping parties get unstuck or learn early extremes when those come up); if I could do those things without being a mentor, I personally would not have bothered to speak to the Smith and gotten the crown that I promptly stuffed into a drawer.

    I've been told more than once when helping gear up an undergeared sprout, or seeing someone struggling with their job in a dungeon and offering to meet up afterwards and help them practice, etc., that the advice/help was appreciated. And often it's contrasted with a bad experience they had previously with a mentor. The fact that they associate the actual help with "just other normal players" rather than "mentors" does the already-tarnished reputation of the crown no favors.

    I know this, yet the crown's reputation is so bad that I still won't turn it on, or correct the sprout when they assume I'm not one... thus only allowing that overall impression that mentors as a group are universally terrible to continue to grow unabated.

    There are, of course, other problems with the system. Like the fact that the criteria for becoming a mentor have absolutely no bearing on how good anyone will be at it, for one.

    But the fact that people actually acting like mentors actively try to disassociate themselves from mentor program in many cases is just... It's a situation that kind of makes it blindingly obvious something has gone horribly wrong with the system somewhere along the line. (Possibly back in the original concept-and-design phase.)

    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Sorry excuses for mentors aside, the system is kind of fundamentally broken when most of the 100 slots in Novice Network are occupied by non-mentors who just wanted the crown and related achievements and have no interest in actually helping people.
    I have not been able to consistently join the Novice Network since Endwalker's launch. I'm assuming people are still actively answering questions there—because I do see some people chiming in on the occasions I do manage to join—but I sure as heck don't know for sure because I can't join the dang thing in the first place like 75% of the time.
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    As someone who has heavily participated in the system for years, I'd love to see it just removed altogether. I've sat in many Novice Networks for many hours, and most of the games Novice Networks are just dominated by cliques of attention starved weirdos who end up alienating a lot of newer players by talking about bizarre or gross topics. I've even seen weird cases of Mentors making aggressively sexual comments towards people who definitely aren't cool with it. There isn't enough of a barrier of entry, so you end up with a bunch of weirdos with no social skills or understanding of personal boundaries; "How do I leave the Novice Network" is such a common question that it's basically a running joke.
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    Niobe Elakha
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    Shiva
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vencio View Post
    If anything there shouldn’t be a mentor system.
    I know quite a lot of sprouts who appreciate the novice network and I also met many sprouts who were happy to complete ex trials with the help of mentors because there seems to be a lack of helpful people joining their sync ex trials pfs...

    Btw its completely optional to become a mentor or join novice network so if u don't like it u could just ignore it?
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    Yuki Bajhiri
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 90
    They better add a server-wide chat channel if they get rid of the system, because Novice Network is the only reason I care about mentorship.
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  10. #10
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I have never made bad experiences with mentors. I have no clue why the people are so against the mentor system. :/




    Cheers
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