Retainer Level?

[Zenaku]

Same here Zezlar. Gathering was my bread and butter. My poor Hiir is going to need some other way to make gil if the market is flooded by retainer gathered items.

Can my retainer run CC/AV please? That was a chore to me. In fact, any dungeon running that has to be done more than 20 times a week is classified as "chore"

how about wait and see what they can really do. I have the feeling they can't really gather that much HQ and that where the bread and butter is.

[HiirNoivl]

Bots are bad.

[Tempestmoon]

Wow, People are so negative. I have nothing against gathering. In fact I love it and one of my highest jobs was BOT. The point is here the Dev team is trying to appeal to as many people as possible. Not all of which like gathering. So while all the gatherers are out shopping trees and picking rocks, those people that would rather kill mobs and do quests can send their NPC out and do it for them. In the end it is your choice what you want to do. SE is just giving us as many choices as possible to make the game that much more enjoyable for everyone. Honestly I loved the Alpha gathering and hope not much changes about it. Keep up the great work SE you're on the right track(chocobo track, hint hint ).

[HiirNoivl]

Here's a choice, buy my stuff! Always cheapest price!

[Reinheart]

Here's a choice, buy my stuff! Always cheapest price!

You know someone is going to undercut you by 1 gil >.>

I see what you all mean though, if RMT's or other gets tons of characters with tons of retainers then it will become a problem for sure. If they add say more features to this retainers chores such as tending your baby Chocobo's and stuff then you have to make a choice of getting a better Chocobo or just have them go gather some crappy NQ items over 2 hour period while you could of gathered 20 times more in 30minutes.

[Zenaku]

Bots are bad.

Really? because last time i check everyone before ffxiv final day people was using bots to get the most darksteel ore/logs. To make enough money to A: Be rich when 2.0 come B: Get every Relic. Seeing how there was not that many linkshell winning ifrit ex i would say people was getting rich.

So i don't see a issue on a retainer getting item for you when i bet they wont every get enough HQ to make you rich just on that. I'm sure they have a time limit and how much they can get before they go back home so i see pointless. SE would never make a system where people can get rich off remember they have to worry about RMT doing it also,.

So there really noting to worry about also you saying you sell them the cheapest mean you be making it worth on you and everyone right? How many time did people lose many because they undercut eachother so much to the point that you could sell the item for more on a NPC then on the AH? I myself made 10+mil selling item to NPC vs the market because guess what? people undercut so much you could buy everything on the market and sell it for profit to a npc lol.

[Rylock]

I would rather the retainer be used to do something unique, rather than just do what players can do, but crappier. Maybe be able to send them out, and they will occasionally come back with a rare doodad to be used in a synth, or some consumable with a unique effect, or a pretty rock you can put on a table in your new house. Someone was talking about letting them take care of your chocobo, or have them take care of your house, or go fight in the Colosseum for amusement and advertising purposes (big logo on the back for cheap darksteel! best prices in town!). Something players cant do on their own.

If they go out and come back with 10 iron ore, the crafter will be disappointed because its not enough to be worthwhile, and they will still have to buy more, the gatherer will be disappointed because they could have just gone and gotten way more on their own, and the fighter wont care and will just sell them anyway.

[Celia]

I'd rather not have retainers getting involved in activities like gathering and crafting. I played Star Wars: The Old Republic while it was beta and again briefly after it was released via a trial version.

In that game you had companions who could obtain crew skills which could be used to gather and craft items, I was constantly sending these companions out to just get junk for me to sell, and the crafting and gathering of the game were really cheapened by the lack of any hands on approach that we have in FFXIV. I liked crafting and gathering in 1.0, and I loved it even more in ARR's alpha.

[Zenaku]

I'd rather not have retainers getting involved in activities like gathering and crafting. I played Star Wars: The Old Republic while it was beta and again briefly after it was released via a trial version.

In that game you had companions who could obtain crew skills which could be used to gather and craft items, I was constantly sending these companions out to just get junk for me to sell, and the crafting and gathering of the game were really cheapened by the lack of any hands on approach that we have in FFXIV. I liked crafting and gathering in 1.0, and I loved it even more in ARR's alpha.

SE is not dumb they would fix any issue i don't know why people so worry. SE is known to release something and it just not as good as you think it was. This Retainer system to get item i bet they just gather junk for the most part and very few good item. It be good for casual players to have small gil to get by but for rest of the player base they be doing the work themself and using the retainer to make junk cash to have when needed.

[Celia]

SE is not dumb they would fix any issue i don't know why people so worry. SE is known to release something and it just not as good as you think it was. This Retainer system to get item i bet they just gather junk for the most part and very few good item. It be good for casual players to have small gil to get by but for rest of the player base they be doing the work themself and using the retainer to make junk cash to have when needed.

I'm sure it depends on how well they gather, but when we're simply told "gathering" it leaves a lot of guess work and a lot up to the imagination in terms of how useful, good, or bad it will be. Better to discuss the way we feel it shouldn't work so that the developers get that feedback than to wait until they've put a lot of very hard work into an aspect of retainers that ends up being disagreeable because there wasn't any cautionary examples for the developers to be wary of.