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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    We just wanted to let you know that relying on your retainer alone to gather for you isn't going to cover all of your gathering needs. We are planning this system very carefully to ensure it does not destroy any sort of economic balance so you can rest easy in that regard.
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    Just as I thought. It should be fine~ if not we'll see it in beta and we'll bash the hell out of it and they will fix it anyways LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    We just wanted to let you know that relying on your retainer alone to gather for you isn't going to cover all of your gathering needs. We are planning this system very carefully to ensure it does not destroy any sort of economic balance so you can rest easy in that regard.
    Cool.

    I started to kind of realize that it almost sounded like..well..basically what RMT bots do in XI...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    We just wanted to let you know that relying on your retainer alone to gather for you isn't going to cover all of your gathering needs. We are planning this system very carefully to ensure it does not destroy any sort of economic balance so you can rest easy in that regard.
    I think a few simple things can balance this:

    1) charge a small fee
    2) the retainer isn't avialable for other purposes while gathering
    3) player must furnish the gathering tools
    4) keep the amount of items obtainable to a reaosnable level (maybe based on the retainer level)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    We just wanted to let you know that relying on your retainer alone to gather for you isn't going to cover all of your gathering needs. We are planning this system very carefully to ensure it does not destroy any sort of economic balance so you can rest easy in that regard.
    Damn my kawaii waifus joining the retainer civil rights movement!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    We just wanted to let you know that relying on your retainer alone to gather for you isn't going to cover all of your gathering needs. We are planning this system very carefully to ensure it does not destroy any sort of economic balance so you can rest easy in that regard.
    Thank you.

    Ok folks, feedback during beta is going to be essential on this topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catapult View Post
    Thank you.

    Ok folks, feedback during beta is going to be essential on this topic.
    did they even say if this was gonna be in beta
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    did they even say if this was gonna be in beta
    It is bound to be in at some point during beta, even if not the start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    We just wanted to let you know that relying on your retainer alone to gather for you isn't going to cover all of your gathering needs. We are planning this system very carefully to ensure it does not destroy any sort of economic balance so you can rest easy in that regard.
    If retainer gathering turns up largely trash, it was a waste of development time.

    If retainer gathering does have notable value, congratulations. You've now compromised DoL to a hilarious degree. Not only does your retainer "bot-gather" for you, but guess what? Now some people who were on the fence about whether they should use an actual bot will go for it -they'll ask, maybe even publicly, "what's the difference?"

    There is no positive outcome with this.

    If you want to expand what retainers can do, there are more helpful and sensible things to consider. I've seen at least a couple decent suggestions in this thread. A general tip: don't play the game for your players; give them the best atmosphere possible so they enjoy playing it.
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    Last edited by Coyohma; 02-02-2013 at 10:22 AM.

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    Woot thx for the update
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandemonium View Post
    Why do morons automatically jump to the worst conclusions:

    "Retainers can gather for us? Oh no, that means gathering is doomed forever!! /FML"

    Um...

    1) I doubt their gathering will be so powerful as to make it worthwhile to rely on it for very much.
    2) If you actually enjoy gathering... then, well, you know... GO AND GATHER YOURSELF AND DON'T USE RETAINER FOR IT.
    Maybe because its another easy mode mechanic from other easy mode games that we dont need copy and pasted to 14
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