The unsurprising absence of Samurai from top DSR ultimate prog teams

[SiriusBreeze]

Do we need any more proof how the failed the Samurai? Revert the Samurai! This was a failed experiment!

[DPZ2]

Can't wait for SE to see this data and realize they need to buff Kasha and Gekko by 10 potency.

Self reported runs via a third-party application are not going to been seen by SE.

Since SE has access to actual in-game data, and there are more than 20 groups actively participating, I expect them to make their assessments on actual fact, rather than conjecture.

[seolhyun]

having monk with mantra is much better than a SAM in ultimate prog

[Stasya]

Dear god... this is some information. Also don't give them more ideas... do not remove my Higanbana... I love keeping that 1 minute DoT up even if it doesn't fit every fight... omg don't make them take that away either don't give them more idiotic ideas DX !!

I actually want for stuff like ultimate with tons of transitions a simple skill that has 1 minute cd but converts all remaining dot timer into damage (cant crit/dh) but w/e need more dumbing down and auto crits.

Self reported runs via a third-party application are not going to been seen by SE.

Since SE has access to actual in-game data, and there are more than 20 groups actively participating, I expect them to make their assessments on actual fact, rather than conjecture.

Sorry but i will just repeat myself here again, they literally based 6.08 buffs based on what devs found out on fflogs, again if they had actual data from beginning (like just before ew release), stuff like reaper everywhere and dead classes wouldn't happened.

Thinking devs do their own log/test runs for damage is just silly after 6.1 at this point.

[Jaquan]

Ummm just skimming through FFlogs and well... Ain't progress usually skeved against Selfish DPS jobs? Looking at previous savage numbers for Samurai were pretty low already with around 1% pick across all servers for the last boss progression. Even Black Mage was picked much less than Red Mage though the trend turns around for speed kills.

[DPZ2]

Sorry but i will just repeat myself here again, they literally based 6.08 buffs based on what devs found out on fflogs, again if they had actual data from beginning (like just before ew release), stuff like reaper everywhere and dead classes wouldn't happened

Your proof for this patently ridiculous charge is ... ? Wishful thinking?

You do know that the term 'literally' means, right?

[Stasya]

Your proof for this patently ridiculous charge is ... ? Wishful thinking?

You do know that the term 'literally' means, right?

Prove it otherwise?

[DPZ2]

Prove it otherwise?

I don't have to prove anything, since I didn't make the assertion "they literally based 6.08 buffs based on what devs found out on fflogs". You did.

To make things easier for readers, I direct you to a web article about the fallacy called "Proof by the Lack of Evidence": http://www.fallacydetective.com/arti...the-other-guy/

It includes this converstation:

Mother: “I thought I told you to clean your room.”

Calvin, waving his arms: “I did! But giant beetles from the planet Zorg came in the window and ransacked the place! I’m lucky to be alive!”

Mother: “That’s ridiculous.”

Calvin: “You can’t say that. You didn’t see them. How do you know they weren’t here?”

[Jaquan]

Prove it otherwise?

Wouldn't that mean that both of you are lying because neither of you can supply the proof other than absence of proof for the other side's argument?

[Stasya]

Wouldn't that mean that both of you are lying because neither of you can supply the proof other than absence of proof for the other side's argument?

Well hes coming from toxic positivity and i have played from start ew till now. Will i believe that devs test stuff like should? At this point no.

But sorry devs good, SAM needs more braindead changes like removing combo and more auto crits.