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  1. #211
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    Conadrium's Avatar
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    Perrin Aybarah
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    Exodus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    having seen how fast people accept rezzes.. having to do that to be rescued would rather defeat the whole purpose of the skill.
    I think he means an actual toggle. Like “can rescue effect you yes/no”
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  2. #212
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    Toutatis's Avatar
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    Marshmallow Puff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaphire View Post
    Sounds like a skill issue. Your fault for being in the stack/AoE.
    Not necessarily. Sometimes someone follows you around with their circles either as a coincidence or because they are new and see that you avoid damage and you end up being cornered. Also twice last week I got the tank buster on a dancer: once in Alzadaal's Legacy because the tank died and once in Aglaia (the tank was alive but didn’t know what he was doing). There’s no escape from that and being at full health with Shield Samba was not enough to survive.

    Rescue can come in handy in some situations.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 11-24-2022 at 03:21 AM.

  3. #213
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    Xaphire's Avatar
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    Aeonna Calvados
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PirateRyanG View Post
    Sometimes it isn't really a skill issue.

    I have had people run towards with me with their AOE, for some reason.

    Like, I am deliberately running with my AOE into the corner of a room, far from anybody else, and then another fella with his AOE comes and stands on top of me for some baffling reason.

    I think some people just get overwhelmed when it happens, so they just instinctively follow others. Still annoying, though.

    Kinda like with that dungeon (forgot the name) with the box where you have to open the box to turn into an old lady so you can't be seduced. Even if you tell everybody how it works beforehand, newbies still instinctively run toward the box that somebody else has used. That part isn't tough to heal through anyway and it causes barely any damage to somebody who does get seduced, but still.
    Oh, this absolutely does happen. Always have to be ready to run away from them, though or otherwise adjust for people who aren't cooperative or otherwise don't understand what to do.
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  4. #214
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    Aeonna Calvados
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    Not necessarily. Sometimes someone follows you around with their circles either as a coincidence or because they are new and see that you avoid damage and you end up being cornered. Also twice last week I got the tank buster on a dancer: once in Alzadaal's Legacy because the tank died and once in Aglaia (the tank was alive but didn’t know what he was doing). There’s no escape from that and being at full health with Shield Samba was not enough to survive.

    Rescue can come in handy in some situations.
    I definitely think rescue should stay. Yes, some players will do a little trolling with it. If it seemed deliberate and you're inclined to report the player for griefing, do so and move on. Most players use it for its intended purpose or not at all though.
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  5. 11-24-2022 03:19 AM

  6. #215
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    Bsrking5's Avatar
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    Alpha Lupi
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    Adamantoise
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Overlapping spread markers makes me wish healers had a 'push' ability to compliment their Rescue.
    I don't see how this could go wrong. Make it work through arms length with a short 15 second cd and it'll be great.

    Can we get a skill to add vuln stacks to party/alliance members?
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  7. #216
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I save people with Rescue all the time. It's useful when you know a sprout is new to a dungeon and you know what always kills them and you see them about to be killed by it.

    A random example. If you are in A10 and you see someone standing on the traps and triggering them over and over again, you can rescue them and thereby rescue the party.

    It's useful even in the latest dungeon. There is a part on the first boss where you must be on a certain side, and if you run to the wrong side, you might be dead. You can save them and bring them to the correct side.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

  8. #217
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    PirateRyanG's Avatar
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    Aserana Swian
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    Odin
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I save people with Rescue all the time. It's useful when you know a sprout is new to a dungeon and you know what always kills them and you see them about to be killed by it.

    A random example. If you are in A10 and you see someone standing on the traps and triggering them over and over again, you can rescue them and thereby rescue the party.

    It's useful even in the latest dungeon. There is a part on the first boss where you must be on a certain side, and if you run to the wrong side, you might be dead. You can save them and bring them to the correct side.
    Let the die and res them.

    It is easier to realise which mechanics kill you if they actually kill you.
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  9. #218
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    I don't see how this could go wrong. Make it work through arms length with a short 15 second cd and it'll be great.

    Can we get a skill to add vuln stacks to party/alliance members?
    A tank can quickly kill his OT if he has a physical vuln stack with Shirk. A tank can also cleave the entire group. A spiteful healer can refuse to raise a down player. Ice mage.

    You might want to consider how players currently troll instead of getting all pissy about things that don't even exist.
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  10. #219
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    Alpha Lupi
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    Adamantoise
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    A tank can quickly kill his OT if he has a physical vuln stack with Shirk. A tank can also cleave the entire group. A spiteful healer can refuse to raise a down player. Ice mage.

    You might want to consider how players currently troll instead of getting all pissy about things that don't even exist.
    I've played SWTOR, so yes. I'm very aware of how players troll. And also how even push would work.

    Just to give an example, there is a boss in SWTOR that hit the main tank with a debuff causing the take damage from healing. It lasted after the boss died. The tank with it would become the sole focus of the healer after said boss died to kill the tank before the debuff wears off. For just the purpose of trolling. Oh and they have/had rescue work out of combat and you can fall off the open world.
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  11. #220
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 90
    Damn this post was necro'd from far back. Besides my opinion of Rescue has changed since then. People have been using it appropriately for a while since I've originally posted this.
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