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  1. #1
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    PirateRyanG's Avatar
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    Aserana Swian
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    Odin
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Xaphire View Post
    Sounds like a skill issue. Your fault for being in the stack/AoE.
    Sometimes it isn't really a skill issue.

    I have had people run towards with me with their AOE, for some reason.

    Like, I am deliberately running with my AOE into the corner of a room, far from anybody else, and then another fella with his AOE comes and stands on top of me for some baffling reason.

    I think some people just get overwhelmed when it happens, so they just instinctively follow others. Still annoying, though.

    Kinda like with that dungeon (forgot the name) with the box where you have to open the box to turn into an old lady so you can't be seduced. Even if you tell everybody how it works beforehand, newbies still instinctively run toward the box that somebody else has used. That part isn't tough to heal through anyway and it causes barely any damage to somebody who does get seduced, but still.
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    Xaphire's Avatar
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    Aeonna Calvados
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PirateRyanG View Post
    Sometimes it isn't really a skill issue.

    I have had people run towards with me with their AOE, for some reason.

    Like, I am deliberately running with my AOE into the corner of a room, far from anybody else, and then another fella with his AOE comes and stands on top of me for some baffling reason.

    I think some people just get overwhelmed when it happens, so they just instinctively follow others. Still annoying, though.

    Kinda like with that dungeon (forgot the name) with the box where you have to open the box to turn into an old lady so you can't be seduced. Even if you tell everybody how it works beforehand, newbies still instinctively run toward the box that somebody else has used. That part isn't tough to heal through anyway and it causes barely any damage to somebody who does get seduced, but still.
    Oh, this absolutely does happen. Always have to be ready to run away from them, though or otherwise adjust for people who aren't cooperative or otherwise don't understand what to do.
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    Toutatis's Avatar
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    Marshmallow Puff
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    Excalibur
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    Warrior Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by Xaphire View Post
    Sounds like a skill issue. Your fault for being in the stack/AoE.
    Not necessarily. Sometimes someone follows you around with their circles either as a coincidence or because they are new and see that you avoid damage and you end up being cornered. Also twice last week I got the tank buster on a dancer: once in Alzadaal's Legacy because the tank died and once in Aglaia (the tank was alive but didn’t know what he was doing). There’s no escape from that and being at full health with Shield Samba was not enough to survive.

    Rescue can come in handy in some situations.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 11-24-2022 at 03:21 AM.

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    Xaphire's Avatar
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    Aeonna Calvados
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    Not necessarily. Sometimes someone follows you around with their circles either as a coincidence or because they are new and see that you avoid damage and you end up being cornered. Also twice last week I got the tank buster on a dancer: once in Alzadaal's Legacy because the tank died and once in Aglaia (the tank was alive but didn’t know what he was doing). There’s no escape from that and being at full health with Shield Samba was not enough to survive.

    Rescue can come in handy in some situations.
    I definitely think rescue should stay. Yes, some players will do a little trolling with it. If it seemed deliberate and you're inclined to report the player for griefing, do so and move on. Most players use it for its intended purpose or not at all though.
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    I agree that spread AoEs are probably the most triggering cause of player-induced death because when you're playing with randoms and no coordination there are so many ways it can go wrong.

    I usually commit to running in one direction...but then sometimes other players get the same idea and it becomes a game of chicken to see who's going to try to adjust, which can further snowball into both of us trying to adjust and mirroring each other's movements by pure coincidence.
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    Tiramu's Avatar
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    Tira Mu
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    Raiden
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I agree that spread AoEs are probably the most triggering cause of player-induced death because when you're playing with randoms and no coordination there are so many ways it can go wrong.

    I usually commit to running in one direction...but then sometimes other players get the same idea and it becomes a game of chicken to see who's going to try to adjust, which can further snowball into both of us trying to adjust and mirroring each other's movements by pure coincidence.
    Haha, two of us heading the same way and getting stuck, or me avoiding others into a tank buster. Had that happen a few times and have been saved, as a healer, from that with rescue.

    Rescue is useful but players have to be so quick with it most of the time it rarely gets used. But, its still useful and I think I've only been trolled with it once or twice.
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    WHM / BLM / SMN / NIN/ DNC / Omnicrafter and Gatherer

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    Equitable_Remedy's Avatar
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    Eristede Kell
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    Sargatanas
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Rescue me
    Oh take me in your arms
    Rescue me
    I want your tender charms
    'Coz I'm lonely and I'm blue
    I need you and your love too

    Wait - what is this threat about?
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Summoner Lv 100
    This would be less of a problem if people would actually ask if it's cool to rescue on pulls and respect the tank's decision on the matter. It's barely saving a second or two on time and can be disorienting if someone's used to doing their wall-to-walls with no interference. I've been rescued at 3 yalms away and I'm just left scratching my head. People could be throwing another dot out there, but instead they want to try speed things up by a negligible amount.

    inb4 someone says my speed is a problem. it's not. I've had this discussion before and we agree on the speed of pulling (2 AOE GCD with an OGCD weaved in to secure aggro on the first pack).
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    Last edited by Deveryn; 11-24-2022 at 01:34 AM.

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    Perrin Aybarah
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    Exodus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    having seen how fast people accept rezzes.. having to do that to be rescued would rather defeat the whole purpose of the skill.
    I think he means an actual toggle. Like “can rescue effect you yes/no”
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