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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guillermo View Post
    I definitely want rescue to stay.
    Even though there is definitely some trolling/abuse but in my experience most people do at least try to use it for its intended purpose.
    One thing which I'm still not sure about when it comes to the actual skill itself, is sometimes when I use it and (I think) I'm definitely in time to save the person from the damage, while they're being dragged over to me they'll get hit by something and still end up dying.
    can players still take damage during the movement or is it simply a case of latency not showing the damage done until they're already being pulled over to me?
    You definitely 'Rescued' the thread.

    Jokes aside, pulling the player to you is no different than if the player started running towards you. If they are not out of the AoE by the time the cast completes, they will still take the damage from the attack. It could be a latency issue, but the more likely cause is you didn't pull the trigger in time. The hesitation is the biggest reason why players will still take damage. There is a bit of a sweet spot for Rescue somewhere between 60-80% cast time. >80% don't even bother rescuing them. Rescue is best used on someone who clearly has no idea they are not where they are supposed to be.
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    Last edited by Gemina; 11-23-2022 at 06:04 PM.

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    Guillermo Torres
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    There is a bit of a sweet spot for Rescue somewhere between 60-80% cast time. >80% don't even bother rescuing them. Rescue is best used on someone who clearly has no idea they are not where they are supposed to be.
    Yeah I guess that's most likely what happened, it's also not that often that the opportunity to use rescue presents itself, so when it does it takes me that little bit longer to realise/react I suppose
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guillermo View Post
    Yeah I guess that's most likely what happened, it's also not that often that the opportunity to use rescue presents itself, so when it does it takes me that little bit longer to realise/react I suppose
    Any time a player dies, there is a really good chance Rescue could have prevented it. This doesn't place you at fault for not using it, but there are definitely ample opportunities to use it in encounters where players are still learning. I usually say this in regards to Rescue; and far more players have died by my hesitation to use Rescue than instances where using it actually killed the player. I can admit that players voicing their gripes about "Muh positioning!" and "Muh deeps!" has deterred me from pulling their asses out of bad.
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    Even if I can rescue someone legit, I don't because ppl get mad haha
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    Noooooo I use it for good purposes and it can help a lot before the sprout makes the same mistake and my rescue is on cooldown D;
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    I don't know how many times kind healers saved my clueless ass using rescue, so I disagree.
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    As long as we're turning off unwanted interaction from other players, please remove stackers/targeted AoEs as other players can get me killed through no fault of my own.
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    Aergrael Iyrnrael
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    as other players can get me killed through no fault of my own.
    Which is much easier than the rescue button to achieve (and can even happen by accident):
    - When an aoe tank buster targets you, run towards teammates (panic aoes can sometimes cause this - although usualy this is a red flag)
    - Simply just die as solo tank for whatever reason (standing in too much aoes so even a healer cant protect you)
    - As a tank, turn off your emnity (can happen as a mispress, but often gets called out quickly, the effect is usualy delayed)
    - As a healer, suddenly stop healing (can also be achieved by death)
    And yes, if deliberate, these will get you kicked, just as much as abusive rescues will.

    Rescue is not an issue, it at most should just become more reliable. Removing it will always be worse.
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    As long as we're turning off unwanted interaction from other players, please remove stackers/targeted AoEs as other players can get me killed through no fault of my own.
    Overlapping spread markers makes me wish healers had a 'push' ability to compliment their Rescue.
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    Aeonna Calvados
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    As long as we're turning off unwanted interaction from other players, please remove stackers/targeted AoEs as other players can get me killed through no fault of my own.
    Sounds like a skill issue. Your fault for being in the stack/AoE.
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