job balancing discussion (1.22a-hotfix)

[Soulfire]

Rampage
<Before>
Increases your attack speed and power for each physical attack against you, and restores HP for each critical hit you land.
<After>
Increases your attack speed and parry rating for each physical attack against you, and restores HP for each critical hit you land.

I could have sworn the original Rampart description said:
"Increases your attack speed and [defense] for each physical attack against you, and restores HP for each critical hit you land."

Go figure I would screw around for hours doing something else while I had it written and someone would post it a minute before me. w

[Hoshikogi]

I'm currently away from my super PC capable of running FFXIV and slightly borred. Sorry =)

The description they used (with attack power) was the one before warrior was introduced. The description after the job patch stated defense.

[Airget]

Rampage Increases your attack speed and power for each physical attack against you, and restores HP for each critical hit you land. Effect fades upon moving or reuse. Cannot be used simultaneously with Berserk.
Recast Time: 10sec.

according to this link http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post476429

I don't recall Rampage ever haviing a defense boost lol

[Deltara]

If anyone has room to complain about underwhelming HP totals, it's monk.

[DeadRiser]

I been reading since this thread came active... and I laugh everytime I see "OMG WHY NERF ARCHER??"

Just came in here to say that

[Hoshikogi]

I don't recall Rampage ever haviing a defense boost lol

The description for rampart after patch 1.21 stated a defense gain; This is one of the reasons why Warrior was so over powered while fighting multiple monsters. This is also the reason why warriors could run through Darkhold with simply regen and stoneskin while being pelted by 15+ monsters and not die.

This defense gain was VERY noticable and it was even noted on the in game description. I'm not sure how you missed reading this detail under the action description [I was (once) over joyed from this change after the job patch].

[CrazyViet228]

Good day to be a DRG finally

[Chardrizard]

The description for rampart after patch 1.21 stated a defense gain; This is one of the reasons why Warrior was so over powered while fighting multiple monsters. This is also the reason why warriors could run through Darkhold with simply regen and stoneskin while being pelted by 15+ monsters and not die.

This defense gain was VERY noticable and it was even noted on the in game description. I'm not sure how you missed reading this detail under the action description [I was (once) over joyed from this change after the job patch].

I could run through darkhold on any melee classes with simply regen and stoneskin.

[Hoshikogi]

I could run through darkhold on any melee classes with simply regen and stoneskin.

Right... so is this is legendary "trolling" I've been hearing about? =)

[Hyrist]

That actually puts it on par with other DD then, not overpowered because level correction is still a bastard.

Understandable, but I'm interested in the long term impact the loss of TP charge up and upkeep will do in the long run with fights. Also input timing is reduced as well by this. I have a feeling that these things are being overlooked in the overall changes, and are going to have a huge impact on the average Dragoon performance.