Instead of new races, we should get alternative body shapes for the races.

[DamianFatale]

(After Female Hrothgar of course)

It would be really nice to see alternative body shapes that are more inclusive.

- Tall Au Ra Women, short Au Ra Men. (has been confirmed in the lore, we just can't select it.)
- Less thick Hrothgar that look more like a standard cat furry. Maybe more lean tall and muscular than thick tall and muscular.
- Huge muscular Miqote. (though could be solved by adding a muscle slider)
- Taller Lalafell (just kidding, thats basically the Elezen. Had to include a joke in here )
- Short Viera men and women. I know a lot of people that wanted this option, and while I do like Viera as they are, the short ideas that people often posted were really cute.

Maybe even some fat body types. I'm not talking morbidly obese, I'm talking like normal bodies. The type of bodies that are wider framed even when they work out. Believe it or not, its actually unrealistic for all bodies to be completely thin, and I think FFXIV does a bad job of showing this. Eulmore was a step in the right direction, but those people were fat because of over indulgence. You can be fat even without overindulging. Some people just have bigger genes. I want to see more variety in the options for the all of the races. Heck, maybe even an overhaul of the entire character creation system.

I can forgive that this is a game, and video games often have unrealistic beauty, to the point that almost every character is good looking, but it still would be nice for the fanbase if we had variety in this aspect.

With that said, please fix Hrothgar ears, and give them their actual racial hairstyles. They shouldn't have to use a fantasia to switch to the starting hairs. I want to see that before they change anything else (and female Hrothgar to continue as planned). I just want more variety and changes to all races LATER.

[SherlottaEryut]

I’d rather they focus on giving us more high quality hairstyles, new faces and more of a variety of glamours..

[DamianFatale]

I’d rather they focus on giving us more high quality hairstyles, new faces and more of a variety of glamours..

If you actually read my post, which I don't think you did, you'd note that I suggested that we get the hairstyles for Hrothgar that we do not have for them yet, along with fixes. This obviously also extends to Viera, but we are in better shape than they are.

I really dislike when people don't read, but then comment something in opposition to you. It's frustrating.

[SherlottaEryut]

I really dislike when people don't read, but then comment something in opposition to you. It's frustrating.

No, I read what you said and I don't agree with your idea, because I'd like them to use all those resources to give us more frequent hairstyles and other options that people will enjoy more, including using their time to give us more headgear that we CAN wear. You're not even comprehending what you're asking for, you should know SE are incapable of doing multiple design tasks at once, in a timely manner at that.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but adjusting our bodies in the character creation will take more work than we know, wouldn't SE need to go back and readjust each piece of gear to re-fit our characters? My characters supposed to have a small bust but I find each piece of chest gear gives it a different size anyway.

One person messaged me and said in regards to butt sliders
"Basically, if they altered character models it would likely require going back over every single piece of gear that's visible on the lower portions of a character in every single animation, and possibly even in every combination, to make sure things work and don't cause excessive clipping, etc. Plus, there are people who like and/or are just used to the current models that wouldn't want their character to be changed, so any change even if it seemed like a no-brainer has to be weighed against the people who like the current situation."

I'm one of those people who like things as they are.
No short female Viera, no tall Au Ra, and especially no comically lanky lalafells.

[Iscah]

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but adjusting our bodies in the character creation will take more work than we know, wouldn't SE need to go back and readjust each piece of gear to re-fit our characters?

This too. Unless they're literally body-swapping different races, they'll need to re-fit things and it will be just as much work as to do it for a new race altogether.

[FoxyAreku]

I'll never say no to more customization, but personally I don't see any sort of customization they can do to make the 5 different human races interesting. I'd definitely prefer some new races if it's a choice.

But they can't even get hrothgar right so who am I kidding?

[Venur]

I'd vote for bigger boobies.

[DamianFatale]

No, I read what you said and I don't agree with your idea, because I'd like them to use all those resources to give us more frequent hairstyles and other options that people will enjoy more, including using their time to give us more headgear that we CAN wear. You're not even comprehending what you're asking for, you should know SE are incapable of doing multiple design tasks at once, in a timely manner at that.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but adjusting our bodies in the character creation will take more work than we know, wouldn't SE need to go back and readjust each piece of gear to re-fit our characters? My characters supposed to have a small bust but I find each piece of chest gear gives it a different size anyway.

One person messaged me and said in regards to butt sliders
"Basically, if they altered character models it would likely require going back over every single piece of gear that's visible on the lower portions of a character in every single animation, and possibly even in every combination, to make sure things work and don't cause excessive clipping, etc. Plus, there are people who like and/or are just used to the current models that wouldn't want their character to be changed, so any change even if it seemed like a no-brainer has to be weighed against the people who like the current situation."

I'm one of those people who like things as they are.
No short female Viera, no tall Au Ra, and especially no comically lanky lalafells.

I'm not one of those people just sit back, and stop asking for requests because they overloaded. I'm sick of people just accepting like its okay that the dev team isn't big enough to have more resources. Square Enix has the money, and they really should hire more teams to get these things done. I've been arguing on the forums forever that the game should get a separate team for quality of life things, because I don't think they have a large enough team to keep up with the pace.

But if you're really okay with just keeping things as they are, and not requesting for more ability handle larger resources, thats fine. We will reap the consequences though. Fans need to speak up, and say they want more people working on the game. I don't think the ambitions for the game are high enough for the current way that things are. Quality on numerous fronts has been lacking, and it's showing harder than it ever has before. We can live in denial, and act like we only get one choice for one thing, and have to sacrifice everything else for that choice, but that's not the truth. There are other MMOs who have bigger teams, and more resources than this one does, and its time SE learns from them. Even if they also have their own flaws.

Also, you misused my joke. I never actually suggested we get really long lalafell, I just said that elezen look like lalafell. God, these forums tire me out.

[SherlottaEryut]

I'm not one of those people just sit back, and stop asking for requests because they overloaded. I'm sick of people just accepting like its okay that the dev team isn't big enough to have more resources. Square Enix has the money, and they really should hire more teams to get these things done. I've been arguing on the forums forever that the game should get a separate team for quality of life things, because I don't think they have a large enough team to keep up with the pace.

But if you're really okay with just keeping things as they are, and not requesting for more ability handle larger resources, thats fine. We will reap the consequences though. Fans need to speak up, and say they want more people working on the game. I don't think the ambitions for the game are high enough for the current way that things are. Quality on numerous fronts has been lacking, and it's showing harder than it ever has before. We can live in denial, and act like we only get one choice for one thing, and have to sacrifice everything else for that choice, but that's not the truth. There are other MMOs who have bigger teams, and more resources than this one does, and its time SE learns from them. Even if they also have their own flaws.

Also, you misused my joke. I never actually suggested we get really long lalafell, I just said that elezen look like lalafell. God, these forums tire me out.

No, but you're asking for a lottt, and SE would only long it out/use it as an excuse to flake out of other areas that need seeing to. No one thinks it's okay, if anything everyone on the forum thinks its downright unacceptable that this is the service SE can provide, but are the developers willing to change it? Very unlikely. So, what are these big projects worth that you're proposing? You see it as a quality of life change, I see it as a waste of time that's better suited elsewhere. I really do believe male Viera's creation came at the cost of neglecting female Viera and male Hrothgar amongst other content for years, can you imagine what would happen if SE had to work through this muscle/body slider that you're proposing? Bare in mind how many races and their genders there are, and imagine how much gear there is in the game... Too much work, it would probably be done around the time Yoshi retires in 10 years.

If SE ever make a new MMORPG and get away from this potato engine, yeah I would say they should go all out on the character creation menu, so people can be as creative to their hearts desire, but right now in this game I can only see it taking up too much time and resources.

I understood your joke, but I was being hyperbolic, because overall the idea of these races being majorly different from what they naturally are is weird to me. I don't like the thought of short Vieras or tall female Au Ra, never have done, so...

[Darksummoner]

I’d rather they focus on giving us more high quality hairstyles, new faces and more of a variety of glamours..

This 3000%. More faces and hairstyles for sure.