Exactly how harsh are the chat rules?

[Insertusernamehere]

It depends your choice IMO.

Random funny joke might be offensive for some one.. better to play it safe, polite talk with no jokes best route IMO unless they are your friends.
If you are not interested with talking random people "Hello" / "GG, Thank you." macro sufficient :3

[technole]

Chat rules are simple.

If you swear in public, and someone reports you, then you are getting a warning or suspension.
Do it again, the first time counts against you, you'll get a longer suspension.

And so on.

People don't realize that EVERYTHING IS LOGGED.

I can't tell you how many times people have acted shocked that, yes the GMs have records of all the perverted stuff that is said in /tells, /party, and even /say or /em in private apartments/homes/rooms.

Not to say people don't talk a lot. Usually a lot of nonsense, especially in areas like Balmung Ul'dah, or the primary hub areas.

But use common sense. Profanity in public is always an inherent risk. I don't care how many times you get away with it. All it takes is one report for the GMs to come down on you.

#1 reason people don't seem to understand how they get caught. Everything you type in that box is saved on the servers, doesn't go away when you logout.

Also I don't tell anyone I'm reporting them for profanity, I just do it when it's pointed and rude. Only takes a few seconds to paste their name/server, write a sentence and time they did it. It's not a big effort.

[Broken_Wind]

It depends your choice IMO.

Random funny joke might be offensive for some one.. better to play it safe, polite talk with no jokes best route IMO unless they are your friends.
If you are not interested with talking random people "Hello" / "GG, Thank you." macro sufficient :3

Do people actually believe this nonsense? because that's what this is, pure nonsense

I mean yeah, don't tell lewd jokes in general channels just like you wouldn't in an office around people you didn't know.
But I mean FFXIV is FULL of people making Lalafell jokes and not getting banned over it (and yes, Ive seen ruffled popotos on rare occasions)

The ones that get a suspension are the ones that escalate situations if asked to chill out.

[Atreides]

I'm upset to say that I've seen some folks in the thread that rather alarm me, because they seem to fit that criteria. I'll quote one of their message, but I won't put them in the spotlight, where they said

I am going to assume that they don't represent the majority of the community, but that someone would consider emotes "not harmless" because it causes frustration, and worthy of punishment is disturbing.

Edit 1: Specification to avoid blanket statement.
Edit 2: To make this message.

Wait what? Where did I even remotely say that emotes warrant a report and ban? All I did was explain the reasoning for people to do that. You're putting words in my mouth here. Teabagging an opponent isn't exactly a civil behavior and frustrates people even more which increases the likehood of them to report you for that. It's easy as that.

In fact I have never in all my years of FFXIV reported anyone for foul language or emoting, outside of RMT I only reported one person so far and believe me that was a good reason. Just to make that clear.

Hit a nerve? I rest my case.

Cope more love. <3

[Payadopa]

Roleplay is meant to be done behind closed doors. Open world RP can be disruptive to others who are not interested in role playing or could be put off by the type of character your role playing as. Others may not be able to tell you're role playing at all. Roleplay is about consent. Invite everyone involved to a party chat or a linkshell and keep it out of the public channels. What you do in RP is not everyone's business.

That is an incredibly weird take.
People can do whatever they want unless they don't harm others. You can even have a RP tag next to your name. lol Don't be such a wet blanket just because you don't like it. What's next? Certain glams are only allowed indoors?

[Bunnycake]

That is an incredibly weird take.
People can do whatever they want unless they don't harm others. You can even have a RP tag next to your name. lol Don't be such a wet blanket just because you don't like it. What's next? Certain glams are only allowed indoors?

https://youtu.be/NUkibfzeQ7g

[Kolsykol]

I rly dunno if this is a NA thing or other data centers, but on Light EU people talk all the time...
It's one of these other '' anti-FFXIV memes '' I see tossed around about how bad the community '' really is '' because people just aren't toxic due to being scared of talking so no one talks...
It's a bunch of bs in my experience and I've played since ARR and nothing has really changed.

Today in my weekly P1-4S clears alone I rain into people getting into a giant argument about uptime vs no uptime towers with half the group joking around and trying to lighten the mood and two people having a huge aggressive argument with each other.
In the P1-3S group I was in we went through quite a lot of people and everyone was friendly and talked with each other.
In the first P1S group I was told to relax for cancelling the countdown and pointing out that no one except me had picked positions ( I just said it normally, I wasn't being mad rofl ), the same person then ragequit and ranted in chat after two wipes.
The third melee in the group too was very rude when he tried to take m2 which I had already taken before him and did the whole non-chalant '' idc bro '' routine.

Toxicity isn't really common even in PF in my experience, my point wasn't that PF is toxic because it actually isn't most of the time.
Point was just that people aren't scared of talking and even being shitty and having arguments.
The toxic tends to not be as bad but I've still seen some pretty openly toxic bs from people with ego problems in particular.

Unless you spam slurs and you're targeting people in a really toxic way you have no reason to be worried.
Maybe some people have some extremely weird case but no system is ever going to be perfect and most of the time it probably didn't happen the way they said it did and they actually were being toxic.

[EnnCee]

they used to have a jail for people who were "bad" in chat, not sure if they still do. there are a few videos made by miscreants who got popped into a jail cell and visited by a GM who politely explained why they were there and what would happen if they continued their evil ways...don't know if it's still a thing but:

https://kotaku.com/did-you-know-that...ers-1786679403

[Insertusernamehere]

Do people actually believe this nonsense? because that's what this is, pure nonsense

I mean yeah, don't tell lewd jokes in general channels just like you wouldn't in an office around people you didn't know.
But I mean FFXIV is FULL of people making Lalafell jokes and not getting banned over it (and yes, Ive seen ruffled popotos on rare occasions)

The ones that get a suspension are the ones that escalate situations if asked to chill out.

Yeah I believe this nonsense. don't do lewd jokes, political jokes including famous politician memes, don't do jokes about religion or any form of faith, don't do jokes about races.
Be polite and don't use street language including "debatable" words like "dog".
SE does not take those things lightly even if your intention different.

[Doc_Seraph]

Inflection is rarely found in reading chat so be very careful whom you speak very leisurely with kupo <3