Exactly how harsh are the chat rules?

[Vav2021]

bottom line is, if you cannot refrain from insulting others, or affording another human being basic respect that everyone deserves... then say nothing.

its not rocket science. the community is what it is, quite a lot of different people all on the same server. you are going to get all types. if you have played online games before, then I am positive you are aware of this. but they do enforce some rules, so always best to at least attempt to follow them. this isnt the wild west.

I'm not one to treat people like crap. There's certain things I do and don't agree with, but I tend to be respectable about it, and seldom ever discuss them.... because, well, there's no point to do so. With that being said, I'm respectable and I don't cause trouble.

Still and yet, there's some things that just raise my eyebrows is all.

[Thaciscokidd]

bottom line is, if you cannot refrain from insulting others, or affording another human being basic respect that everyone deserves... then say nothing.

I would also like to add know your audience.

I'm in an FC with a bunch of current and ex military members and military brats. We have a very colorful FC chat. We don't invite people to it unless someone can vouch for them because if we would invite just about anyone and they saw what our chat contained, we'd all be long gone.

[Vav2021]

I would also like to add know your audience.

I'm in an FC with a bunch of current and ex military members and military brats. We have a very colorful FC chat. We don't invite people to it unless someone can vouch for them because if we would invite just about anyone and they saw what our chat contained, we'd all be long gone.

I come from a military family. Tell them I said "thank you for your service." It's always good to have friends you can safely shoot the shinola with.

[Atreides]

I'm upset to say that I've seen some folks in the thread that rather alarm me, because they seem to fit that criteria. I'll quote one of their message, but I won't put them in the spotlight, where they said

I am going to assume that they don't represent the majority of the community, but that someone would consider emotes "not harmless" because it causes frustration, and worthy of punishment is disturbing.

Edit 1: Specification to avoid blanket statement.
Edit 2: To make this message.

Wait what? Where did I even remotely say that emotes warrant a report and ban? All I did was explain the reasoning for people to do that. You're putting words in my mouth here. Teabagging an opponent isn't exactly a civil behavior and frustrates people even more which increases the likehood of them to report you for that. It's easy as that.

In fact I have never in all my years of FFXIV reported anyone for foul language or emoting, outside of RMT I only reported one person so far and believe me that was a good reason. Just to make that clear.

Hit a nerve? I rest my case.

Cope more love. <3

[HolyReign]

While the Chat rules aren't overly harsh.

What people will label as, "Toxic.", "Abusive.", "Threatening/Aggressive." has no limit, and if enough of these people were to report someone, regardless of it actually being one of those things, that person will get into heaps of trouble.

That's why you won't see loads of chat going on, because the fragility of peoples emotions, when it pertains to being made to feel uncomfortable by someone's chat, which results in the spam of reports that land the reported into range of ye ol' banhammer.

All I have to say is, I find it strange the lengths people will go, to silence people who don't feel/think/behave as they do.

*Shrug*

[SturmChurro]

I'd take the better safe than sorry route. What is said in-game is ultimately logged in-game, and a GM can pull all of those records. I'd like to be more direct at times, even on the forums, but it's not worth the potential risk. No curse words either - not that they are really necessary to hold a conversation.

PvP enforcement seems to be overharsh to me. I don't really, personally, see an issue with using certain emotes to taunt a player, it's part of the nature of a PvP environment. However, the chat spamming can be a little obnoxious, not that I necessarily think someone deserves a strike over it. I wish the game was less drastic with much of it's punishments.

[Broken_Wind]

PvP enforcement seems to be overharsh to me. I don't really, personally, see an issue with using certain emotes to taunt a player, it's part of the nature of a PvP environment. However, the chat spamming can be a little obnoxious, not that I necessarily think someone deserves a strike over it. I wish the game was less drastic with much of it's punishments.

Just because its common nature to be a toxic butt in a PvP environment in other games doesnt mean it should be tolerated here IMO

[Vahlnir]

Just because its common nature to be a toxic butt in a PvP environment in other games doesnt mean it should be tolerated here IMO

I agree with Sturm on this, at least for the most part, but there is a line. I just think that SE decided to use the scorched earth approach, which was...excessive. No emoting. No using quick chat options too much. No disconnecting from the game even if you can't help it. The list goes on, as just about anything could be considered griefing via their rules. There's not even a gray area. Everything is bad and SE left 0 wiggle room. I get what they were going for, but how they went about it was overkill.

[Valfreyja]

Chat rules are simple.

If you swear in public, and someone reports you, then you are getting a warning or suspension.
Do it again, the first time counts against you, you'll get a longer suspension.

And so on.

People don't realize that EVERYTHING IS LOGGED.

I can't tell you how many times people have acted shocked that, yes the GMs have records of all the perverted stuff that is said in /tells, /party, and even /say or /em in private apartments/homes/rooms.

Not to say people don't talk a lot. Usually a lot of nonsense, especially in areas like Balmung Ul'dah, or the primary hub areas.

But use common sense. Profanity in public is always an inherent risk. I don't care how many times you get away with it. All it takes is one report for the GMs to come down on you.

[technole]

Chat rules are simple.

If you swear in public, and someone reports you, then you are getting a warning or suspension.
Do it again, the first time counts against you, you'll get a longer suspension.

And so on.

People don't realize that EVERYTHING IS LOGGED.

I can't tell you how many times people have acted shocked that, yes the GMs have records of all the perverted stuff that is said in /tells, /party, and even /say or /em in private apartments/homes/rooms.

Not to say people don't talk a lot. Usually a lot of nonsense, especially in areas like Balmung Ul'dah, or the primary hub areas.

But use common sense. Profanity in public is always an inherent risk. I don't care how many times you get away with it. All it takes is one report for the GMs to come down on you.

#1 reason people don't seem to understand how they get caught. Everything you type in that box is saved on the servers, doesn't go away when you logout.

Also I don't tell anyone I'm reporting them for profanity, I just do it when it's pointed and rude. Only takes a few seconds to paste their name/server, write a sentence and time they did it. It's not a big effort.