Exactly how harsh are the chat rules?

[Katalyn]

Roleplay is meant to be done behind closed doors. Open world RP can be disruptive to others who are not interested in role playing or could be put off by the type of character your role playing as. Others may not be able to tell you're role playing at all. Roleplay is about consent. Invite everyone involved to a party chat or a linkshell and keep it out of the public channels. What you do in RP is not everyone's business.

I'll have to disagree. The open world is vastly underutilized, outside of a new MSQ drop which baring the start of an expansion dries up pretty quickly. Most just sit in a city or house/apartment and queue for whatever instance they are running. Theme park game yada yada...

I do agree people need to be considerate with their RP. You (generic you) don't want to break into it while running content to prevent the kind of situations mentioned above. As for more congested area like major cities, I'd say we are now talking about a server cultural issue.

What if the broody character is in character and shrugs off "Do what you want, just don't be a damn burden to the team." Or what if there's an argument in the group/fellowship for the sake of advancing a story? Or god forbid, what if someone with a sailor background with a goofy temper pops off a quote like "I'mma peg you between t'eyes like my whole crew did between the legs o'er mother, ye landlubber!"

Like I doubt this kinda thing would raise an eyebrow on Balmung even in a major city.

Finally, even if you do somehow manage to offend someone, get reported, and a GM decides its a violation unless you are being EXTRA then you are probably just getting a warning for a first offense. As some have already said, just be reasonable/sane in your interactions and you are likely to never encounter a problem.

[Seraphor]

Don't be a dick.
Don't swear at people.
Don't ERP.

That's it.
Anyone making an issue out of "being banned for talking" is likely an insufferable edgelord who thinks it's everyone else's problem that nobody likes them because they're toxic/racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic/etc.

Ultimately you need to be reported for any action to be taken, and reporting someone takes effort, so take from that what you will. The more of a dick you are, or the more people are around to see it, the higher your chances of getting reported I guess.

[Darthgummibear]

Don't be a dick.
Don't swear at people.
Don't ERP.

That's it.
Anyone making an issue out of "being banned for talking" is likely an insufferable edgelord who thinks it's everyone else's problem that nobody likes them because they're toxic/racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic/etc.

Ultimately you need to be reported for any action to be taken, and reporting someone takes effort, so take from that what you will. The more of a dick you are, or the more people are around to see it, the higher your chances of getting reported I guess.

Could you have used any more buzzwords?

[Payadopa]

Well they made it against the TOS to do something as simple as harmless emotes when people die in pvp, and the game is full of toxic passive aggressive crap since so many people seem to think the smallest comment or insult is the end of the world.

That's intellectual dishonesty. You don't just "emote" on a corpse. You know full well what you're doing. So don't act surprised when people see through that facade immediately. (I mean you as in people)

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Don't be an a$$hat
If you're unsure whether your words will offend another soul or not, then it's best to keep it to yourself/do it elsewhere safer.

Doesn't sound harsh imho. I think it's because they actually act upon their regulation when reports come in unlike some other MMO's GM who would often tell you to "grow a thicker skin".

[technole]

I've reported profanity from shout chat in the past, but they were not in-jest and calling out people. One even tried to tell me to turn on my profanity filter (its just a client setting, the word(s) are still logged on the server).

But that's about it.

[VerdeLuck]

I assume the rap come from people not talking in underpopulated MSQ areas. If you go to Kholusia for example, it's pretty much just people doing MSQ, role quests, Nier raid quests, and Beast tribe quests. There will be maybe 30 people in the instance so the chances of anyone talking is pretty minor, but when you go to a city, shout chat and say chat is always going on.

[EagleDynamics]

Here's the scenario I've got going on. I'm another one of those wow refugees that came here sometime last year after Blizzard showed their true colors. I like to roleplay on my fantasy characters. Nothing extreme, no ERP, but light stuff, like character development. When I came over, I found myself amazed with all the people and the gameplay itself. But, chat was eerily silent for all the people around me. I haven't payed it much attention, but earlier today I saw people talking in /say, and I half jokingly made a remark. Well, this is what went down.

Are the rules really this extreme where people are afraid to make the social game... well... social? and if so, what in particular is causing this?

all i know is if you start talking about someones dps being poor because thats how you see it on your dps meter youre probably going to be talking to a gm soon.

[UkcsAlias]

all i know is if you start talking about someones dps being poor because thats how you see it on your dps meter youre probably going to be talking to a gm soon.

As that implies 3rd party software usage. And such software is usualy not allowed (some devs do allow it to some degree, but are still vague so they can always act on issues in any way they like - some information after all is too much like cheating).

Yes, within private raiding parties this can be used as an analytics tool, and on that maybe allowed for this purpose (i dont know if it is). But in public games this is definitely something you should not want. Blaming someone else is on that just toxic behaviour. Although i can imagine that if a player wants to learn from someone that uses such stats, it might actualy help them. But then again, such player is unlikely to get insulted and instead just receives feedback that he wants.

And in private raiding parties in which dps on that scale matters, they most likely already use voice chat (therefor its unlikely they get reported based on chat), and usualy already play on the hardest difficulty where random parties are a bad idea. Its unlikely to cause an issue there.

If they are using text chat, that party is already making a major mistake. I think this is the main reason why such statements are considered a problem.

I think its kept vague for a good reason, and thats simply that you only want to act on excessive cases. And in this game profanity is actualy less of a problem compared to spoilers. Spoilers can realy destroy certain aspects of a story, yet profanity can at most just be anoying (not to be confused with insulting which is something else!).

[EagleDynamics]

As that implies 3rd party software usage. And such software is usualy not allowed (some devs do allow it to some degree, but are still vague so they can always act on issues in any way they like - some information after all is too much like cheating).

Yes, within private raiding parties this can be used as an analytics tool, and on that maybe allowed for this purpose (i dont know if it is). But in public games this is definitely something you should not want. Blaming someone else is on that just toxic behaviour. Although i can imagine that if a player wants to learn from someone that uses such stats, it might actualy help them. But then again, such player is unlikely to get insulted and instead just receives feedback that he wants.

And in private raiding parties in which dps on that scale matters, they most likely already use voice chat (therefor its unlikely they get reported based on chat), and usualy already play on the hardest difficulty where random parties are a bad idea. Its unlikely to cause an issue there.

If they are using text chat, that party is already making a major mistake. I think this is the main reason why such statements are considered a problem.

I think its kept vague for a good reason, and thats simply that you only want to act on excessive cases. And in this game profanity is actualy less of a problem compared to spoilers. Spoilers can realy destroy certain aspects of a story, yet profanity can at most just be anoying (not to be confused with insulting which is something else!).

yes that makes sense. people in a hardcore static raiding fc who all know each other wouldn't narc on a member for using a dps meter. if it helps them out then more power to them.