Unranked to Diamond in 7 hours

[Enjuden]

Ranked is designed to let you climb, until you get to Crystal. Then it's designed to have you stay as low as possible since you lose more points than you win.

In my experience I usually got 6 to 8 wins in a row, then lost around 4 to 5. Right now it's mostly 2 to 1, and yes, the monk changes made it feel a lot better, but still not easy to pilot.

[Tenken7]

I thought I would give some feedback about my experience climbing in Crystal Crowd Control Conflict while it's still fresh in my mind.
After every 3 game win streak, I would get matched with hopeless teams. I always try my best, but I now firmly believe SE wants to break your streak.

I noticed SE's anti-leveling code as well. I also firmly believe SE is set on breaking streaks. I'm sure people will call me a conspiracy theorist and use echo chamber words like "confirmation bias" (what a meaningless and made-up concept) and I say, do it! Seriously, do it! It will not change my view on my experience one bit.

[Petite]

It's PURE luck if you make it up or not if you are capable of playing well because there will be lots and LOTS of people just ready to drag you down.

It may be pure luck for some, heck I wondered how some people made it to platinum many times. But if you have good awareness and skills, it's not too hard as long as you don't play DNC, RPR, BRD, GNB. Even day 1 BLMs were able to make Crystal pre-buff. I was top DPS 60+% of the time including when we would lose despite other jobs being better at raking damage. You're fooling yourself if you think it's only luck is what I'm saying.

[Saucy_Jack]

It may be pure luck for some, heck I wondered how some people made it to platinum many times. But if you have good awareness and skills, it's not too hard as long as you don't play DNC, RPR, BRD, GNB. Even day 1 BLMs were able to make Crystal pre-buff. I was top DPS 60+% of the time including when we would lose despite other jobs being better at raking damage. You're fooling yourself if you think it's only luck is what I'm saying.

This is entirely correct from what I’ve seen. Factually speaking, winning half your games will still let you climb due to winstreaks, meaning in order to get stuck for a long time in one rank, you have to be so far below the average that you cause your teams to lose more than half their games, and not by a small amount.

I hit diamond at ~65 wins on pre-buff PLD and just hit crystal at 88 wins, again with only PLD. As in the job that’s so bad for the initial climb that even post-buff the BLM main calls it apparently useless, and being a BLM player he’s not even used to playing with meta job power levels. It is easier on some jobs, but people really underestimate how much of a difference it makes to just focus on getting good and figuring how to make your own play better, instead of blaming everyone else and sitting there raging at your teammates for hours

[Sarevok_Thordin]

It may be pure luck for some, heck I wondered how some people made it to platinum many times. But if you have good awareness and skills, it's not too hard as long as you don't play DNC, RPR, BRD, GNB. Even day 1 BLMs were able to make Crystal pre-buff. I was top DPS 60+% of the time including when we would lose despite other jobs being better at raking damage. You're fooling yourself if you think it's only luck is what I'm saying.

Sorry but I cannot see this and I likely never will after having 8 promos to gold denied because on the very promo match someone decided it would be funny to split despite the team not wanting to...and their team waiting to welcome them with all 5 before charging at our weakened side (5v4 is pretty much guaranteed loss at the first clash) or just flat out leeroying into the enemy, not to mention times when the game matches our team against a absurdly CC heavy team.

There is far too much luck involved and I'm speaking as someone who has had top DPS and kills in many matches I've lost as it is flat out impossible to carry.

This is entirely correct from what I’ve seen. Factually speaking, winning half your games will still let you climb due to winstreaks, meaning in order to get stuck for a long time in one rank, you have to be so far below the average that you cause your teams to lose more than half their games, and not by a small amount.

I hit diamond at ~65 wins on pre-buff PLD and just hit crystal at 88 wins, again with only PLD. As in the job that’s so bad for the initial climb that even post-buff the BLM main calls it apparently useless, and being a BLM player he’s not even used to playing with meta job power levels. It is easier on some jobs, but people really underestimate how much of a difference it makes to just focus on getting good and figuring how to make your own play better, instead of blaming everyone else and sitting there raging at your teammates for hours

As I said above, I've had matches where I've been top of the pile that turned out lost as my team were just dying left and right, usually they are promo matches. As far as I'm concerned I'm playing well beyond Silver division, but it's RNG if I'll never be able to climb to where I can start to enjoy matches as I'm in a pit.

Luck isn't everything, but when you are fully capable of playing properly it is still an overwhelming factor you cannot escape from.

[Saucy_Jack]

Sorry but I cannot see this and I likely never will after having 8 promos to gold denied because on the very promo match someone decided it would be funny to split despite the team not wanting to...and their team waiting to welcome them with all 5 before charging at our weakened side (5v4 is pretty much guaranteed loss at the first clash) or just flat out leeroying into the enemy, not to mention times when the game matches our team against a absurdly CC heavy team.

There is far too much luck involved and I'm speaking as someone who has had top DPS and kills in many matches I've lost as it is flat out impossible to carry.



As I said above, I've had matches where I've been top of the pile that turned out lost as my team were just dying left and right, usually they are promo matches. As far as I'm concerned I'm playing well beyond Silver division, but it's RNG if I'll never be able to climb to where I can start to enjoy matches as I'm in a pit.

Luck isn't everything, but when you are fully capable of playing properly it is still an overwhelming factor you cannot escape from.

Scoreboard doesn’t win games. Stats are rough metrics at best, and the game mode isn’t about having the most padded stats. It’s about whatever is required for your team to win. DPS will ofc have the highest damage and kills because that’s the role, healers and tanks have a lot of their numbers on different types of abilities. Doesn’t mean the dps actually played into the right fights to actually win the game, it just means they’re playing a role that has the job of doing damage and that particular metric is just inflated to begin with by the role having bigger numbers on damaging abilities.

A healer that consistently chains CC and has quick reflexes to save players that are being focused so they can pot or turn the fight won’t have it really show up on the scoreboard, whoever they just saved will get the scoreboard credit. Tanks that take 1v2s to stop players from potting and let their team win a 4v3 in the process will just look like they just took a shit ton of damage and teammates will get the inflated scoreboard kill stats. DPS who target select well to burst down low players in CC with the team before they can rejuvenate or guard, will actually show on scoreboard as having dealt less damage, but they’ve contributed a ton more to winning than someone who just indiscriminately spreads damage around.

Those are three really common examples - there are tons more - of players getting shittier scoreboard stats but ranking up faster because they dgaf about stats and played to have their team win the game, rather than playing to be the player with the best KDA or highest damage dealt on the losing team.

[Sarevok_Thordin]

That doesn't really change anything about how even if you play your role confidently and competently you are still at the mercy of the 4/5 with you.

I'm really just making my peace with that now tbh.

[Lymberey]

That doesn't really change anything about how even if you play your role confidently and competently you are still at the mercy of the 4/5 with you.

I'm really just making my peace with that now tbh.

I always say that If one wants to know how much of a RNG this can be, play BLM. You have almost no carry potential or tide-turning LB or high impact skills, require heavy set up, very easy to die when focused, and very team dependent because it is a red support. If your team is not decent or a team, you are most likely to perform worse and loss.

After almost 300 matches and climbing mostly with BLM (with a bit of RDM) to Plat, i think that it was extremely brutal in Silver and Gold. My worst memories are in Silver though as i got 10 consecutive losses there. Most of my teammates during Silver and Gold were not working as a team and scattered across the map resulting in me having to go to the frontline and die instantly or constantly getting jumped on with no one to help. Most of my curb stomped matches were in that range.

I had this conversation with a friend who is a SGE and he doesn't believe me about luck because he got from Nothing to Plat in 4 days while i was stuck in Silver and Gold for weeks. I have to play 200 matches to reach Gold while he got to Plat under a hundred and we only have 2% difference in Winrate. I think some jobs are more luck dependent than others purely because of their kit as you need to depend on your team to even work properly. Of course winning or losing is depending on the whole team, but meta or high tier jobs can work properly on their own with any kind of team so they have less RNG.

Good news though, once i reached Plat, people seems to work as a team better than Silver-Gold and my overall performance got significantly better.

[Zephhi]

I really wanted to enjoy it but there is so much CC at times that it's extremely boring. Playing DRK and trying to get a heal with Quietus and not restoring hp right away along with my CC-escape skill down > leads into me getting stunned, then right after it ends silenced, then charmed and dead right as it hits. It's boring

[Petite]

Sorry but I cannot see this and I likely never will after having 8 promos to gold denied [...] I'm speaking as someone who has had top DPS and kills in many matches I've lost as it is flat out impossible to carry.

8 promos to gold lost as top DPS?