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  1. #51
    Player
    Remish's Avatar
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    Aug 2020
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    Character
    All-good Namesaregone
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 1
    It doesn't help that nowadays; most FC members are constantly visiting other Data Centers 24/7 around the clock and only return home for their retainers or reset their personal house timers here and there. Because of DC visits, Discord has unfortunately become the main way to go since FC chat doesn't transfer over data centers. Sometimes you're lucky as a leader to even get a recruit to stay longer than a week anymore. It's hard to make people feel welcomed as a leader if they aren't even on the data center anymore. Sometimes it helps to look at things from the leader's perspective as well at times. I've made many FCs over the years. Recruiting was never hard. Convincing people not to leave is. It doesn't help that it's nearly impossible to find reliable officers that are passionate enough to grow the FC. The only time I ever see people passionate enough to help is if it's some kind of RP FC or Venue and there is a gil paycheck involved; or they get rights to the FC Airships. You also have people who threaten to leave if you dare ever change the FC buffs to something. I have had people leave because Heat of Battle was changed to a raid buff for a few hours, or the food buff was changed to a teleport buff. If you have ever tried to lead an FC, people take the buffs personally sometimes. Then you also get those really weird insecure full of anxiety people who refuse to do so much as a single roulette unless the FC does it with them. And they never progress the game because the FC didn't play with them enough to level/gear them up. So many people come in expecting to be handheld and baby sat through the game; and its weird how many people expect the FC to coddle them their every need. Don't even get me started on the house...
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    Last edited by Remish; 03-09-2023 at 11:31 PM.

  2. #52
    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    May 2022
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    Character
    Feline Good
    World
    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Remish View Post
    It doesn't help that nowadays; most FC members are constantly visiting other Data Centers 24/7 around the clock and only return home for their retainers or reset their personal house timers here and there. Because of DC visits, Discord has unfortunately become the main way to go since FC chat doesn't transfer over data centers. Sometimes you're lucky as a leader to even get a recruit to stay longer than a week anymore. It's hard to make people feel welcomed as a leader if they aren't even on the data center anymore. Sometimes it helps to look at things from the leader's perspective as well at times. I've made many FCs over the years. Recruiting was never hard. Convincing people not to leave is. It doesn't help that it's nearly impossible to find reliable officers that are passionate enough to grow the FC. The only time I ever see people passionate enough to help is if it's some kind of RP FC or Venue and there is a gil paycheck involved; or they get rights to the FC Airships. You also have people who threaten to leave if you dare ever change the FC buffs to something. I have had people leave because Heat of Battle was changed to a raid buff for a few hours, or the food buff was changed to a teleport buff. If you have ever tried to lead an FC, people take the buffs personally sometimes. Then you also get those really weird insecure full of anxiety people who refuse to do so much as a single roulette unless the FC does it with them. And they never progress the game because the FC didn't play with them enough to level/gear them up. So many people come in expecting to be handheld and baby sat through the game; and its weird how many people expect the FC to coddle them their every need. Don't even get me started on the house...
    I feel for a lot of this but at the same time... I've never been in a FC that really did anything, and if they did have events then they were super closed off and uninviting.

    I did maps with one of the FCs I was in twice. After that I wasn't inviting anymore for whatever reason. Maybe I'm too quiet, I'm not sure. At this point I just do group activities with randoms in PF or that I meet in discords though.

    I just haven't really felt anything with most FCs. There's no invites to activities, if anything that isn't a RP venue is being hosted to begin with. And don't even get me started on the fact that if I'm FCless for even a minute I immediate get a ton of tells because "A wild FCless Omni appeared," even though most of them just want someone that can fill in occasionally or people that will craft/gather for them...

    If you're in charge of a FC then you need to make efforts to welcome people, even if it is through discord. If you recruit too many people and can't keep up with them or can't spare time for them, then that's probably your fault for being one of those FCs that treats people like collectibles. I've seen so many FCs that are just close groups of friends that don't really want other people to hang out with them, they just want to grow their FC to show it off.
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  3. #53
    Player
    Puc's Avatar
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    Jan 2020
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    79
    Character
    Ya Ni
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Sounds like the problem is that you arent in Exodus, we get it poppin over here whether within FC or not.
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  4. #54
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    Vukimukinukiduki's Avatar
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    Mar 2020
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    Character
    Kaikelona Chuu
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    When nobody pay attention to what you speak.
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  5. #55
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    AshtonCrowe's Avatar
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    Mar 2023
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    189
    Character
    Ashton Crowe
    World
    Seraph
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Yeah, Thinking bout leaving my FC based on some of the responses here.
    Having your own 5 stack FC Chest sounds amazing alongside my 6 retainers.

    Plus, With a FC you can do Submarine stuff whereas you never see any of those Benefits as a member. Plus, In 1 man FC You don't gotta deal with bored people and their attempts at creating Drama.

    Been saving gil for a little while now gunna get enough for a plot and probably bail.
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    Last edited by AshtonCrowe; 03-11-2023 at 06:19 PM.

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