Balance

[Hikuro_Kenshi]

Yeah I'm part of the MCH main crew cackling wildly and then sobbing uncontrollably in this thread.

DEVS, if you hate MCH so much, just tell us straight up. Stop giving us false hope of DPS increases in the form of little crumbs in each patch. They literally do nothing except make us weep when new endgame content comes out.

[MikoRemi]

I’m hoping with the other Machinists here that something can be done. Most I can offer is really my rework thread but yeah…job feel is the first pain, but also being pain in the numbers doesn’t help much.

Let’s not forget the amazing wonders of Lost Dervish…

I extend the courtesy of fixes to job feel and potential DPS issues where applicable to all jobs as well. /pray

[Wyakin]

Reaper is just one example of a job that needs work. To those people who are blind, it did not get weaker no. It got left behind by over buffing the rest of the melees to a point that its being excluded from things like ultimate and log groups for being a "hinderance". I do not for one minute think its bad to play, reaper is amazing

To those machinists, I feel you. I played ranged DPS for 8 years and gave it up because I got sick of SEs inability to balance the job role.

For that one person saying RPR is 3% less than a ninja etc etc. At the 95% and above, ninja does 400+ DPS more than reaper currently. Thats the low end of the scale. I'm not a mathmatician but thats more than 3% gap.

[Dyvid]

Reaper is just one example of a job that needs work. To those people who are blind, it did not get weaker no. It got left behind by over buffing the rest of the melees to a point that its being excluded from things like ultimate and log groups for being a "hinderance". I do not for one minute think its bad to play, reaper is amazing

To those machinists, I feel you. I played ranged DPS for 8 years and gave it up because I got sick of SEs inability to balance the job role.

For that one person saying RPR is 3% less than a ninja etc etc. At the 95% and above, ninja does 400+ DPS more than reaper currently. Thats the low end of the scale. I'm not a mathmatician but thats more than 3% gap.

So you'll never ever have complete balance between 12 DPS classes, it's not going to happening. The best you can hope for is vary degrees of percentage. Now if RPR went from top to say, 15% to 20% drop then yea there is a big issue. However the data is showing 2%~3%. So exactly what percent are you looking for when alarm bells should be sounded? It's an honest question.

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Also lets not confuse balance with lazy job design or redesign I might say.

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I believe Job Roles need a redesign for balance more than individual jobs themselves. MCH is a fine example of this because Physical Range DPS has always buffed the party's DPS yet MCH doesn't. Caster should be design with high DPS output with the draw back of standing still, casting a spell and consuming mana yet SMN is nothing but instant cast and plays more like a PHY RNG DPS now.