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    As an old school jrpg fan and as someone who actually enjoy ARR pre-nerf, unfortunately I have to agree with OP. It's not the matter of "lot's of combat", but it's a matter of cutscene:gameplay ratio. Personally, ShB is fine, if not a little to dragged on in certain parts. Endwalker though? Even for me who thoroughly enjoy long cutscene, it was rough. I probably have around a dozen times I lost focus during the cutscenes. Hell, I even skip one halfway through, and this is the first for me.

    And to someone who said "well, old jrpg comes in 4 disc", isn't that due to one disc not enough for the entire game, so they need to split it up? Not always because it got lengthy cutscenes?

    I think persona series manage to keep a good balance between story and action. The new tales of arise is quite good at it too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
    As an old school jrpg fan and as someone who actually enjoy ARR pre-nerf, unfortunately I have to agree with OP. It's not the matter of "lot's of combat", but it's a matter of cutscene:gameplay ratio. Personally, ShB is fine, if not a little to dragged on in certain parts. Endwalker though? Even for me who thoroughly enjoy long cutscene, it was rough. I probably have around a dozen times I lost focus during the cutscenes. Hell, I even skip one halfway through, and this is the first for me.

    And to someone who said "well, old jrpg comes in 4 disc", isn't that due to one disc not enough for the entire game, so they need to split it up? Not always because it got lengthy cutscenes?

    I think persona series manage to keep a good balance between story and action. The new tales of arise is quite good at it too.
    I said that because yeah it was due to that obviously but the devs still spaced out the story to cater to having an act structure between discs which I thought was a great detail. At least with FFIX's case
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
    The new tales of arise is quite good at it too.
    I would not consider that super-rushed trope-laden story with shitty 1-dimensional characters (minus dohalim) that completely goes back on its main plot point with a HAHA GOTCHA NANOMACHINES SON and WACKY APPLE-CORE ASTROPHYSICS BULLSHIT twist near the end to be good by any measure. Nor would I consider a game which completely abandons its past very expressive artstyle for shitty 3dCG with limited expression as a cost-saving measure to be good. Nor would I consider a game where the AI crap out randomly in combat because HAHA CHALLENGE LUL to be good. Nor would I consider a game that has intentionally front-loaded difficulty to encourage you to buy microtransactions to be good. Nor would I consider a game that has you have to PAY for DLC in order to get the second healer's AOE skill good. Nor would I consider a game that gutted features that were key to past titles to be good (multiplayer). Nor would I consider a game that eschewed the quirks of previous titles that added to the series charm like victory scenes and more comedic scenes in the name of SRS BSNS SRS GAME to be good. Nor would I consider a game with worse AI than its predecessor yet restricting you to AI only companions to be good. And so on and so forth.

    Arise is a disgrace to the tales series as a whole on par with what FF13 was to the FF franchise, and you should feel bad for getting duped by good graphics and awards (That were only won because the game had little to no competition that year). I'm also very dissapointed that this trash fire is what is going to be the series "new direction".
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    Last edited by Laphicet; 05-01-2022 at 04:40 AM.