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    Player Darthgummibear's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    90% is walking and talking to the next person
    Emphasis on walking the whole way. My biggest gripe about EW is all the quests where the NPC has to follow you the ENTIRE TIME, and you have to walk the whole distance on foot. Using an aetheryte breaks it, using your mount breaks it, hell if the NPC gets stuck on something and you don't notice that breaks it.
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    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Jimbo Jimbo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    Emphasis on walking the whole way. My biggest gripe about EW is all the quests where the NPC has to follow you the ENTIRE TIME, and you have to walk the whole distance on foot. Using an aetheryte breaks it, using your mount breaks it, hell if the NPC gets stuck on something and you don't notice that breaks it.
    It's designed for RP players, or players that want that extra dialogue to have an option to do. How ever the flaw is it emphasizes that aspect to much vs those that want to just get to the next location and move on. It all kind of goes back to an issue with ffxiv where is tends to lack options over all with the MSQ and leveling in particular.
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Only gets worse in endwalker.

    Other than the quota amount of dungeons/trials, think I fought 3 things total, and two of those were (spoiler character) and (spoiler character).

    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    Emphasis on walking the whole way. My biggest gripe about EW is all the quests where the NPC has to follow you the ENTIRE TIME, and you have to walk the whole distance on foot. Using an aetheryte breaks it, using your mount breaks it, hell if the NPC gets stuck on something and you don't notice that breaks it.
    They fixed that this patch actually. You can use aetherytes now.
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    Yxiah Eruyt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowdove View Post
    I made it though part of Shadowbringers. The story is great. But I finally admit defeat to the MSQ. Two hours of cutscenes and dialogue text (only a slight exaggeration) between getting to kill maybe two enemies is just too much.


    I think FF14 is great. I love the combat. I love the community. Far better than WoW's community.


    But this MSQ...I just can't do it.


    So I lay down my sword and give up.


    I'll be back one day. But for now, I need something that is paced a bit better between story and actually getting to do something.
    I agree. Enjoy your break!
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    FFXIVs style of having a more story/RP/immersion focused leveling system vs the standard of collect 10 bear butts isn't for everyone.
    I do wish their was more combat in it, although duties tend to be better than what most MMORPGs offer in their leveling experience

    At the end of the day the EW MSQ, while not paced as well as ShB, was still far better than any expansion outside of FFXIV. Compare it to the tedious quest hub nature of even TBC/WotLk and FFXIV wins, for me. That said, Id rather go kill 50 crocodiles for Hemet then find 40 NPCs in a circle with more hiding places then should be possible though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broken_Wind View Post
    FFXIVs style of having a more story/RP/immersion focused leveling system vs the standard of collect 10 bear butts isn't for everyone.
    I do wish their was more combat in it, although duties tend to be better than what most MMORPGs offer in their leveling experience

    At the end of the day the EW MSQ, while not paced as well as ShB, was still far better than any expansion outside of FFXIV. Compare it to the tedious quest hub nature of even TBC/WotLk and FFXIV wins, for me. That said, Id rather go kill 50 crocodiles for Hemet then find 40 NPCs in a circle with more hiding places then should be possible though.
    Haha yeah some places when I finally found someone I was like "I CHECKED THERE"

    SE gave them all some Invisibility Cloaks or something

    Though I will say the notorious frustration has made that memorable and is something players can commiserate over like finding the Doman kids. So I don't find it all bad.
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    Rhela Tsurugi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broken_Wind View Post
    FFXIVs style of having a more story/RP/immersion focused leveling system vs the standard of collect 10 bear butts isn't for everyone.
    I do wish their was more combat in it, although duties tend to be better than what most MMORPGs offer in their leveling experience
    I agree about solo duties, it's a great way to experience the story vs watching it and I think they should do more of them. The atmosphere from that solo duty in Garlemald was actually amazing, I felt fully immersed and was actually getting frustrated at myself and my character in a good way. There needs to be more of that instead of cutscenes, in my opinion.
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    Corvo Aerden
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laphicet View Post
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    You sure are very passionate about this X'D

    Don't worry, I actually agree with your point. I never played the previous tales game, only know about them bits and pieces. So, as a "casual and new" tales player, it's an okay game for me. Yes it can be difficult, but I enjoy the combat. Not saying I don't recognize their attempt for pushing microtransaction though.

    As for my previous comment, my point is that ToA has a balanced cutscene:gameplay ratio, at least in my opinion. Unlike endwalker which has too many lengthy cutscenes.
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    Noah Orih
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    Another problem is approaching the MSQ like one might for WoW or another MMO where endgame is the only game, which simply isn't true. There is a lot of content between every expansion and tons of side content with all different kinds of objectives to go after. BLU content, Gold Saucer, past endgame bosses (level 50, 60, 70, 80), Deep Dungeons, Eureka, Bozja, Treasure Maps, Crafting/Gathering, Leveling other jobs, and now PVP is actually thriving.

    If you're trying to bum rush endgame because you think you have to, then please take a moment to stop and explore what's available to you now. There is far more to enjoy and explore than jut level 90 content.
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    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Jimbo Jimbo
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    Another problem is approaching the MSQ like one might for WoW or another MMO where endgame is the only game, which simply isn't true. There is a lot of content between every expansion and tons of side content with all different kinds of objectives to go after. BLU content, Gold Saucer, past endgame bosses (level 50, 60, 70, 80), Deep Dungeons, Eureka, Bozja, Treasure Maps, Crafting/Gathering, Leveling other jobs, and now PVP is actually thriving.

    If you're trying to bum rush endgame because you think you have to, then please take a moment to stop and explore what's available to you now. There is far more to enjoy and explore than jut level 90 content.
    There's a lot of content between every expansion, that has been dead since we moved from that expansion.
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