I'm back from Lost Ark

[Skiros]

Okay I'll bite.

What makes it more fun? Not really interested in swapping to the game but always interested to see what other options are out there and what they're doing.

The rotations are simpler (8 button total for most classes) in Lost Ark but the catch is that most skills have animation lock and also move your character around, which means you'd have to think a bit more on when and how to use your rotation. Boss patterns are also random so you have to constantly think on the fly. Every button on a class in Lost Ark has a different hit AoE (think pre-6.1 Overpower vs. something like Total Eclipse) so you need to aim your skills. They also have a lot of different attributes. Bosses can CC you and slam you on the ground causing you to fall over for 3s, but some skills have Super Armor which you can use to give yourself CC immunity, which means that you can adjust your rotation on the fly so that you keep uptime with Super Armor by using those skills to give yourself uptime.

But really what makes it more fun is that every skill feels like they do something different and you're not just hitting a dummy because the boss attacks are random. FF14 is a choreography which is fun when fights are as complicated as DSR which I'm doing right now. But when bosses do like one mechanic every 20 seconds it honestly feels like a slog. Lost Ark bosses are mechanically simpler but they feel more engaging because of the randomness and because the skills all do different things and aren't just filler damage. Lost Ark has easier fights, but they feel more engaging. I think FF14 can do the same. Give players lots to do but make it not punishing at all when you fail.

[Dionysius]

They don't dumb down, or maybe rather they don't know how to balance jobs or even they don't need to because the game doesn't have parser.

[RobynDaBank]

Hi back from Lost Ark. I'm dad.

[Skiros]

They don't dumb down, or maybe rather they don't know how to balance jobs or even they don't need to because the game doesn't have parser.

Balance is pretty poor in Lost Ark, yes. But that is orthogonal to whether jobs are dumbed down lol.

Love whenever I mention Lost Ark FF14 fans just rush to criticize it. Same thing happens in Lost Ark! Mention FF14 and they start to rush saying it's a weeb trash boring easy game etc.

Same ol' same ol'.

[MrJadeOfStars]

I've been back from Lost Ark like a month and a half ago uninstalled the game, won't be going back to it. Once Elden Ring came out my activity on LA just fell off a cliff and hearing all the players complaining about the honing rates just did not give me the motivation to get back in it.

[Atreides]

Balance is pretty poor in Lost Ark, yes. But that is orthogonal to whether jobs are dumbed down lol.

Love whenever I mention Lost Ark FF14 fans just rush to criticize it. Same thing happens in Lost Ark! Mention FF14 and they start to rush saying it's a weeb trash boring easy game etc.

Same ol' same ol'.

I mean in a way this is a healthy sign for the game, people enjoy and defend it. WoW community on the other hand will bash FFXIV and then proceed talking about how shit their own game is.
Tho right now they are on high expansion news copium.

[Larirawiel]

Lost Ark combat is way more fun than FF14 because unlike FF14 they did not dumb down jobs. FF14 is carried by its encounters. If FF14 didn't have good encounter design it'll be a supremely boring game.

#facts #truth #facts and logic

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Cheers

[Shurrikhan]

We dont support that pay to win trash over here.

Except through the obvious existence of a decently large RMT economy here and paid Savage/Ulti clears as still, though more subtly, available through PF, naturally.

If it comes from a Mogstation-equivalent, though... /heads_be_shaking.

[Shibi]

(੭ˊᵕˋ)੭.*･｡ﾟ We got the wrong one back.... OK, which one of you guys messed up the summoning circle? 乁༼ ☯‿☯✿༽ㄏ

[Shurrikhan]

(੭ˊᵕˋ)੭.*･｡ﾟ We got the wrong one back.... OK, which one of you guys messed up the summoning circle? 乁༼ ☯‿☯✿༽ㄏ

I thought you wanted the Flame Demon Lord?

Did... did we mess up?