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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    The rotations are simpler (8 button total for most classes) in Lost Ark but the catch is that most skills have animation lock and also move your character around, which means you'd have to think a bit more on when and how to use your rotation. Boss patterns are also random so you have to constantly think on the fly. Every button on a class in Lost Ark has a different hit AoE (think pre-6.1 Overpower vs. something like Total Eclipse) so you need to aim your skills. They also have a lot of different attributes. Bosses can CC you and slam you on the ground causing you to fall over for 3s, but some skills have Super Armor which you can use to give yourself CC immunity, which means that you can adjust your rotation on the fly so that you keep uptime with Super Armor by using those skills to give yourself uptime.

    But really what makes it more fun is that every skill feels like they do something different and you're not just hitting a dummy because the boss attacks are random. FF14 is a choreography which is fun when fights are as complicated as DSR which I'm doing right now. But when bosses do like one mechanic every 20 seconds it honestly feels like a slog. Lost Ark bosses are mechanically simpler but they feel more engaging because of the randomness and because the skills all do different things and aren't just filler damage. Lost Ark has easier fights, but they feel more engaging. I think FF14 can do the same. Give players lots to do but make it not punishing at all when you fail.
    That does sound interesting. So it's an ARPG? Does it have a story?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    That does sound interesting. So it's an ARPG? Does it have a story?
    It is an ARPG yeah. The story is really bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    It is an ARPG yeah. The story is really bad.
    Haha well that might turn me off a bit. I've been spoiled now by the story focus in XIV.

    Huge Diablo fan, though. Does it feel like Diablo as others have said?
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    Lost Ark combat is way more fun than FF14 because unlike FF14 they did not dumb down jobs. FF14 is carried by its encounters. If FF14 didn't have good encounter design it'll be a supremely boring game.

    #facts #truth #facts and logic
    Lost Ark is also Fundamentally Different in Gameplay.
    Your essentially Comparing Puzzle Fighter to Killer Instinct
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    If you want to still feel like you're in Lost Ark, I'd recommend going to Pyros, 3rd Eureka island. Bunny fates are farmed by packs of bots, this'll make you feel right at home.
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    Neat. We had a big patch and a new adventure plate system to play around with and the new PVP is a lot of fun.

    Oh and there was some problems with the new housing sale system.

    You're all caught up now, you can go play lost ark again and leave us alone.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Derio Uzumaki
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    We dont support that pay to win trash over here.
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    We dont support that pay to win trash over here.
    Except through the obvious existence of a decently large RMT economy here and paid Savage/Ulti clears as still, though more subtly, available through PF, naturally.

    If it comes from a Mogstation-equivalent, though... /heads_be_shaking.
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    We dont support that pay to win trash over here.
    It isn't really 'pay to win'. I tried it out a month after launch, didn't spend a single bit of money on the store and still managed to catch up easily enough between the items I gained naturally and the generous rewards offered through the login bonuses/special events.

    With Square Enix flirting with NFT's and selling dolls of comfort characters for £1000 I also find it strange to bash one game for optional purchases but ignore the other. Even if you want to go 'well it's just cosmetics' and ignore stuff like emotes and minions being tied to merchandise, to get extra inventory space in FFXIV you need to pay extra each month.
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It isn't really 'pay to win'. I tried it out a month after launch, didn't spend a single bit of money on the store and still managed to catch up easily enough between the items I gained naturally and the generous rewards offered through the login bonuses/special events.

    With Square Enix flirting with NFT's and selling dolls of comfort characters for £1000 I also find it strange to bash one game for optional purchases but ignore the other. Even if you want to go 'well it's just cosmetics' and ignore stuff like emotes and minions being tied to merchandise, to get extra inventory space in FFXIV you need to pay extra each month.
    I haven't heard of anyone spending several grand on XIV within the first month, but that is most definitely a thing in lost Ark.
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