I'm back from Lost Ark

[Rieberry]

I played Lost Ark for a bit (concurrently with FFXIV) because friends were playing and had fun with it for a while before I got bored with the honing process/lack of glamour/many other features I really love in FFXIV. My biggest take away from LA is that I would love if FFXIV in the future implemented a giant zone with tons of little islands for us to explore on our own little customizable/upgradable ships - a bigger better Ruby Sea with boats? I really wanna be a pirate bunny.

[KizuyaKatogami]

And yet....after 10 years of FFXIV...I'm still completing old content. Still finding new things to do. New things to get lost in. New people do them with.

Crystaline Conflict stole literally 9 hours of my life the first 3 days. I was hooked... Total amount of dollars invested.... $15 a month
Bozja with a fully fleshed out story, completely new progression system, rank system, relic weapon to earn, and also great alt leveling area that's fun. ..... $15 a month
Savage Tiered encounters that offer a real challenge every 6-9 months, and could take around 5 months to complete depending on your prog complete with gear, mounts, titles, achievements ...... $15 a month.
Ultimates that are incredibly involved.... $15 a month
Gold Saucer....
Chocobo racing....
Tetra Master....
Housing.... (dodges brick)
Glamour....
A real Story that spans 10 years....
Extremes that also have a fully fleshed out story....
Music....the FREAKING MUSIC....
Hildebrand.....
Heaven on high, palace of the dead.....
Maps and portal dungeons....
Seasonal events....
Unreals....
Alliance Raids with fleshed out stories....
Fast frenetic combat at high level....
Sightseeing...
Challenge log....
Achievements....
Eureka....


I'm starting to think $15 a month isn't enough....

But you get the idea.

Bozja fully fleshed out story? You have to be kidding lmao. Even the writer for that story knew it wasn’t fully fleshed out. They literally left it on a cliff hanger and then said that’s the end of the story enjoy. The actual ending is hidden behind cliff notes. 90% of what you mention is subjective regardless anyways.Chocobo racing hasn’t received an update in years. The card game is called triple triad not tetra master…. Unreal trials are literally arr trials with more hp and do more damage.

[Skiros]

And yet....after 10 years of FFXIV...I'm still completing old content. Still finding new things to do. New things to get lost in. New people do them with.

Crystaline Conflict stole literally 9 hours of my life the first 3 days. I was hooked... Total amount of dollars invested.... $15 a month
Bozja with a fully fleshed out story, completely new progression system, rank system, relic weapon to earn, and also great alt leveling area that's fun. ..... $15 a month
Savage Tiered encounters that offer a real challenge every 6-9 months, and could take around 5 months to complete depending on your prog complete with gear, mounts, titles, achievements ...... $15 a month.
Ultimates that are incredibly involved.... $15 a month
Gold Saucer....
Chocobo racing....
Tetra Master....
Housing.... (dodges brick)
Glamour....
A real Story that spans 10 years....
Extremes that also have a fully fleshed out story....
Music....the FREAKING MUSIC....
Hildebrand.....
Heaven on high, palace of the dead.....
Maps and portal dungeons....
Seasonal events....
Unreals....
Alliance Raids with fleshed out stories....
Fast frenetic combat at high level....
Sightseeing...
Challenge log....
Achievements....
Eureka....


I'm starting to think $15 a month isn't enough....

But you get the idea.

Done it all already.

[Kolsykol]

Reason why I can't rly get into Lost Ark is the same as with BDO, it's too time consuming.
Imo I think FFXIV isn't time consuming enough once you've cleared the content and are just doing your weekly clears, I basically clear it in one sitting and wish I had more altho when the Savage tier is unlocked it'll be easier to find groups and just run for fun and to gear alts/ glam etc.

But I'd rather take how FFXIV is than how Lost Ark works, even with WoW it's too much for me nowadays.
Lost Ark just feels like a game that expects you to ONLY play Lost Ark, while FFXIV leaves room to play other games.

[SturmChurro]

Reason why I can't rly get into Lost Ark is the same as with BDO, it's too time consuming.
Imo I think FFXIV isn't time consuming enough once you've cleared the content and are just doing your weekly clears, I basically clear it in one sitting and wish I had more altho when the Savage tier is unlocked it'll be easier to find groups and just run for fun and to gear alts/ glam etc.

But I'd rather take how FFXIV is than how Lost Ark works, even with WoW it's too much for me nowadays.
Lost Ark just feels like a game that expects you to ONLY play Lost Ark, while FFXIV leaves room to play other games.

How long does it take someone to get to endgame from start to finish in FFXIV? I mean from ARR to EW. Lost Ark does NOT expect you to play only Lost Ark. With it's rested exp, it allows for players to literally skip several days, even a week, and not fall behind. It routinely gives out power pass skips (for free), so you can get alt characters ready to go. A 960 pass was given out for free last week. You have to pay SE what.. $25 to boost an alt job?

[Skiros]

Reason why I can't rly get into Lost Ark is the same as with BDO, it's too time consuming.
Imo I think FFXIV isn't time consuming enough once you've cleared the content and are just doing your weekly clears, I basically clear it in one sitting and wish I had more altho when the Savage tier is unlocked it'll be easier to find groups and just run for fun and to gear alts/ glam etc.

But I'd rather take how FFXIV is than how Lost Ark works, even with WoW it's too much for me nowadays.
Lost Ark just feels like a game that expects you to ONLY play Lost Ark, while FFXIV leaves room to play other games.

True, but there should be more to do in FF14. Pushing all the casual content to like 6.2/6.3 (like Island Sanctuary, Criterion Dungeon, relics) just feels bad.

[Kolsykol]

How long does it take someone to get to endgame from start to finish in FFXIV? I mean from ARR to EW. Lost Ark does NOT expect you to play only Lost Ark. With it's rested exp, it allows for players to literally skip several days, even a week, and not fall behind. It routinely gives out power pass skips (for free), so you can get alt characters ready to go. A 960 pass was given out for free last week. You have to pay SE what.. $25 to boost an alt job?

ARR to EW is more like a singleplayer RPG for the most part tho, I was mainly talking about the endgame and actually doing all of it and staying up to date with it.

Edit: You can also buy power in Lost Ark while you can't in FFXIV.
They give you boosts to get you to quicker spend money on the game because max level is where that's going to happen.
I don't think it's because they're just feeling generous.

[Cincierta]

So how much money did you dump?

[SturmChurro]

True, but there should be more to do in FF14. Pushing all the casual content to like 6.2/6.3 (like Island Sanctuary, Criterion Dungeon, relics) just feels bad.

Even the casual grinds, like islands, don't feel as bad as some of the grinds in this game.

ARR to EW is more like a singleplayer RPG for the most part tho, I was mainly talking about the endgame and actually doing all of it and staying up to date with it.

Once you are at endgame, you can get your dailies and even your weeklies done on reset in a matter of a couple hours. Dailies alone you can get done in half an hour on your main. If you play alts, just add 15-30 minutes of dailies each IF you do that everyday, otherwise you can just not play your alts for days to stack up rested exp. A lot of people just let their alts stack rested exp and do the dailies then. You can save bitfrosts at locations in the world to finish up the Una's task dailies in that game in a matter of minutes as well.

[Theodric]

How long does it take someone to get to endgame from start to finish in FFXIV. I mean from ARR to EW? Lost Ark does NOT expect you to play only Lost Ark. With it's rested exp, it allows for players to literally skip several days, even a week, and not fall behind.

It's all about self restraint in my eyes. Pacing, too, I suppose.

I play both ESO and Lost Ark on the side when the mood strikes me and neither threaten to rid me of my character's home if I decide to take a break. Unlike with FFXIV - and I highly doubt that I'd get another mansion if I let mine get demolished in FFXIV.

Nor would I want to play the game if I lacked access to a house since it's a huge part of the game in itself.