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  1. #1
    Player
    Hanzz96's Avatar
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    Blake Ashwren
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    Seraph
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 89

    Machinist needs some QoL changes and the ping issue resolved

    Machinist needs some serious QoL changes considering the class in unplayable on high ping. Putting wildfire on stacks and extending the hypercharge window so the weaves aren't as tight would be a good start. A lot of people are saying mch simply needs potency buffs but I think that's a band aid fix for the design of the job. Yes we need to hit harder since we're the "selfish" ranged and so that we bring something to the table that DNC and BRD don't but overall the job needs work outside of just buffs.

    What do you guys think?
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  2. #2
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    I have no trouble with MCH. The problem is solved by doing the weaving after hypercharge is over.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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  3. #3
    Player
    Wanzzo's Avatar
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    Character
    Nadia Frostwind
    World
    Seraph
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Where do I click to agree more?? '-'

    I'm brazilian and I love the MCH job. Their concept and all steampunk glamours we can have inside game fits my char perfectly :3
    But, my ping normaly is around 260ms whitout 3rd party tunneling service. Imagine the poor and weak damage input I can do :'(

    We need that solved for sure! And with a decent and permanent solution at that!!
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    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Jimbo Jimbo
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I have no trouble with MCH. The problem is solved by doing the weaving after hypercharge is over.
    That is sub optimal!!!!!!!

    If you time hypercharge right you can weave no problem, but it requires staring at your hotbar for 2.5 seconds.
    I'd rather they rework the class into something fun.
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    Last edited by IdowhatIwant; 04-29-2022 at 07:28 AM.

  5. #5
    Player
    Hanzz96's Avatar
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    Blake Ashwren
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    Seraph
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    Gunbreaker Lv 89
    The mch rotation sorta demands that you weave OGCD's into your hypercharge window.
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hanzz96 View Post
    . Yes we need to hit harder since we're the "selfish" ranged and so that we bring something to the table that DNC and BRD don't
    If you're talking about damage support... this whole thing about selfish dps is meaningless because in the end of the day, everything is rdps. The difference is that jobs that have some sort of +%dmg party buffs are relegating a bit of their rdps contribution into the hand of their friends.

    MCH current design has no justification for above average dps as it is today, ideally right now it should be just the 'best' of the aiming group, above DNC and BRD, but that's just because it lacks niche defensive support.

    To warrant a higher spot they would need to rework or (actually, since the job is already too simple) introduce job mechanics that makes MCH actually complex with a higher skill ceiling, things like branching combos, conditional actions that interact with other actions, Queen micromanagement, resource micromanagement, and what not.

    Right now, being the "selfish of the aiming" doesn't really cut, even if the numbers are just above the other 2, because that group is already bottom of the barrel as it is.
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    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Jimbo Jimbo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    rDPS, is really there to make Dancer and Bard feel better about there low aDPS.
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    Character
    Urien Spectrum
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I have no trouble with MCH. The problem is solved by doing the weaving after hypercharge is over.
    The classic "It doesnt bother me so it must be fine" argument"
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  9. #9
    Player
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    Character
    Blake Ashwren
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    Seraph
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 89
    The problem is MCH should be the best of the aiming cclasses but simply aren't. BRD outclasses MCH at every turn and parties love DNC and BRD for buffs. Right now MCH brings nothing to the table.
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    Ulorin Ardor
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Its the easiest ranged to play. For that reason I don't think it should be the best of the aiming jobs.
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