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    Palslow's Avatar
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    Zenitoria Blastidia
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    16th may is exactly one month since when the problem first appeared.....I did not expect this to be such a huge issue which take a huge game developing company 1 full month to solve....some company develops a whole AAA game in 2 years....1 months for SE seems a lot
    (10)

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    Lecruidant Longclaw
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    This is pretty absurd, ngl. They told us already that they were already testing it. Now they are "building" something ot test further? Come on. This should be around the clock work. Saying business days is kind of a joke considering our subs don't revolve around business hours. And to the person saying Housing is a small aspect. I wanna see your numbers. Because from the amount of complaining about availability to the number of housing threads that were on the JP servers complaining and on Twitter, I think you're not only clueless but you're also just backing Square up on something that shouldn't take a company as large as Square another 2 weeks to fix.
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    StrongWilled's Avatar
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    Leyla Da'lahni
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    I wanna know how they are gonna handle FCs, who had multiple members bid. And an instance, because timing or what-not, either a lottery participant for the FC either unsubbed, or has left the FC for other reasons. At the time of the original lottery, they were fully qualified, and now, because it is taking so long, there is a good potential for winners to actually not qualify anymore or that they aren't playing presently.
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    This is pretty absurd, ngl. They told us already that they were already testing it. Now they are "building" something ot test further? Come on. This should be around the clock work. Saying business days is kind of a joke considering our subs don't revolve around business hours. And to the person saying Housing is a small aspect. I wanna see your numbers. Because from the amount of complaining about availability to the number of housing threads that were on the JP servers complaining and on Twitter, I think you're not only clueless but you're also just backing Square up on something that shouldn't take a company as large as Square another 2 weeks to fix.
    Yes, let's put people through sleep deprivation or unreasonable work hours for housing. Very logical and will not make matters worse/produce more mistakes. *thumbs up*

    We've all been patient this long, another two weeks won't kill anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Yes, let's put people through sleep deprivation or unreasonable work hours for housing. Very logical and will not make matters worse/produce more mistakes. *thumbs up*

    We've all been patient this long, another two weeks won't kill anyone.
    I don't really care at this point. Tbh I backed Square in the past. But clearly they took no prior actions to stop this from happening and only went into full "Test" mode AFTER they screwed things up. My Sub and yours don't have "Business Hours". And since we use the excuse for every other occurrence when it suits us. The same team that works on balance adjustments are not the same team that work on housing. Etc etc. This should not be taking as long as it is. They are now building something else to test further. Clearly they already have something they've used to test the fix. Use that. Stop wasting time building something else. I have 200mil in holding now for my FC because they couldn't be bothered to fully test this out the months prior to the lotto sytem. Further, as somebody stated, this doesn't address what happens if somebody who WAS in an FC ends up leaving in this large amount of time it's taking them to do this, etc. You wanna be complacent with things going on lately, fine that's on you. But i'm not. And i'll say it out loud instead of just patting the poor multi billion dollar company on the head from here on out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    I don't really care at this point. Tbh I backed Square in the past. But clearly they took no prior actions to stop this from happening and only went into full "Test" mode AFTER they screwed things up. My Sub and yours don't have "Business Hours". And since we use the excuse for every other occurrence when it suits us. The same team that works on balance adjustments are not the same team that work on housing. Etc etc. This should not be taking as long as it is. They are now building something else to test further. Clearly they already have something they've used to test the fix. Use that. Stop wasting time building something else. I have 200mil in holding now for my FC because they couldn't be bothered to fully test this out the months prior to the lotto sytem. Further, as somebody stated, this doesn't address what happens if somebody who WAS in an FC ends up leaving in this large amount of time it's taking them to do this, etc. You wanna be complacent with things going on lately, fine that's on you. But i'm not. And i'll say it out loud instead of just patting the poor multi billion dollar company on the head from here on out
    Saying that the workers at a company deserve to have time to eat, sleep and relax outside of their workday isn't "patting the poor multi-billion dollar company on the head", and your demands of crunch to fix an entertainment product are frankly disgusting.
    (9)

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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowVix View Post
    Saying that the workers at a company deserve to have time to eat, sleep and relax outside of their workday isn't "patting the poor multi-billion dollar company on the head", and your demands of crunch to fix an entertainment product are frankly disgusting.
    Yeah. I'm not happy with the current situation, and their regular updates on this aren't making it any better for me. But no one is doing/fixing anything if they aren't fed or sleeping.
    (3)
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palslow View Post
    some company develops a whole AAA game in 2 years....1 months for SE seems a lot
    SE treats an expansion like creating a whole new game so even SE can develop games in 2 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    you're also just backing Square up on something that shouldn't take a company as large as Square another 2 weeks to fix.
    It hasn't taken them that long to fix it because it's already fixed internally, what is taking this long is testing it. It doesn't matter how big your company is. Testing takes time.
    (13)
    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Hikari Tamamo
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    That's crazy. You're telling me that it's only going to take a month to isolate a bug that affected the entire housing system, recreate it, and then resimulate the entire lottery?
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    Lecruidant Longclaw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    SE treats an expansion like creating a whole new game so even SE can develop games in 2 years.

    It hasn't taken them that long to fix it because it's already fixed internally, what is taking this long is testing it. It doesn't matter how big your company is. Testing takes time.
    Pushing it out until the next update for everyone, which is clearly what is going on, isn't testing it. That can be done within a weeks time. I've done plenty of testing myself. They have, at the least, 8 hours in a day for the housing team that's working on it. You run the script, check the data, reset, run again. That's 90 hours of "Business" day testing. Plus whatever has been going on prior for testing.

    But hey, this wouldn't be happening if rigorous testing had occurred prior to the lotto release. Which is clear did not happen. Not much seems like it has been rigorously tested since Yoshi started producing XVI alongside XIV if we're going to be honest
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