Match quality is a joke

[rofland]

The level of focus fire in crystal is significantly higher and more consistent.

Not even remotely true.

[Anhra]

Are you okay? We're literally talking about matchmaking here, where did this rant even come from? I swear, every time I read one of your posts I always think "okay, this guy can't possibly make any less sense", yet you keep surprising me.

Why else would anyone ever bother on the Forums and blame it on Matchmaking, if not for this? There is bad People in every Ranking Ladder, even in Crystal. It was no different in Feast, when we push the matter of wintrades and so on aside.


Oh and on a sidenote, just because something doesn't make sense to you, doesnt mean it overall makes no sense, maybe thats why People like you complain in the first place, hm?

Tl;dr: Matchmaking is fine, People are not.

[aeoncs]

Why else would anyone ever bother on the Forums and blame it on Matchmaking, if not for this? There is bad People in every Ranking Ladder, even in Crystal. It was no different in Feast, when we push the matter of wintrades and so on aside.


Oh and on a sidenote, just because something doesn't make sense to you, doesnt mean it overall makes no sense, maybe thats why People like you complain in the first place, hm?

Tl;dr: Matchmaking is fine, People are not.

You clearly never played Feast during the early seasons. There wasn't a single player in the top 100, let alone in Diamond or Platinum, with a <50% win rate. That coupled with you only being matched with people of your own tier, as well as 1+- respectively, guaranteed a mostly very good and balanced experience in higher rated games; with the flipside being that you barely got to play as a DPS or even a Tank because of the smaller playerbase and fixed roles. Still, I'd argue that quality over quantity is a good thing, we just need a middle ground now.

Your post is objectively pointless given the context. Literally no one was talking about the Meta, nor does it have anything to do with the vast difference in skill between players who are literally playing in the same bracket/tier.

How is the matchmaking fine when you have players who brute-forced their way into specific tiers by just playing nonstop and waiting for a few win streaks? Even in Crystal you regularly face and play with players who would have peaked in Gold or Platinum with a proper ranking system and matchmaking.

It's a complete disaster right now and definitely needs some significant changes if they ever want FFXIVs PvP to be taken even remotely seriously. That and the cheating issues, I still think that most of the wintrading will resolve itself if they fix the rest.

[Darthgummibear]

Why else would anyone ever bother on the Forums and blame it on Matchmaking, if not for this? There is bad People in every Ranking Ladder, even in Crystal. It was no different in Feast, when we push the matter of wintrades and so on aside.


Oh and on a sidenote, just because something doesn't make sense to you, doesnt mean it overall makes no sense, maybe thats why People like you complain in the first place, hm?

Tl;dr: Matchmaking is fine, People are not.

Man the toxic trolls have taken a serious hit in quality.

[Anhra]

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First, sorry for the Double Post, posting from a Phone has its limitations.

Lets assume and say Matchmaking would be "fixed" by queuing you alongside People of equal or near equal "skill", which WILL mean (judging on how squeenix always handles things) you fight aganist and with people from your Rank only OR within a rating score that works on a similar level.

The biggest Problem, such a thing would have, is the way how it limits itself and how it can be abused, allow me to elaborate further:

Lets say you are in Gold Rank with a Elo Score of 1500, the matchmaker only allows you to get queued with People +/- 250 to 500 Rating closest to you, prioritising the ones closest to you (since you want People who are closest to your level). Not only will you end up in a Match with always the sane People, it can also be easily abused to encourage Wintrading (like back in Feast, since low entry People from Unranked/Bronze will be discouraged to progress, since they only queue with "the worst") and History will only repeat itself at this point.

And then there is the matter of People using Alts for PvP. It is by no means a bad thing in itself, but a Alt character who'se only purpose is to sabotage matches in a legal way is a frightening hurdle to overcome, especially in a Elo Ranking based Matchmaker.

You only need to see the Feast Ranking from Season 18 from Chaos Datacenter and you will see what im talking about.

[Anhra]

Man the toxic trolls have taken a serious hit in quality.

Most People who do PvP are highly inflammable rather than toxic, at least get your Chemistry Hazards right.

[Adajer]

I just got to diamond on rpr. Every single match since has felt like bronze matches.

Teammates allergic to crystal. Not doing any dmg or using LB in any useful way.

[Iyrnwaen]

Crystal is indistinguishable from unranked/bronze. Please bring back the old Feast brackets.

It's actually worse. People in Bronze are still trying to get better and win.
Crystal is full of folks who realized they'll never hit top 100 and are just screwing around.
There's no penalty for throwing matches because you can't de-rank. It's an absolute dumpster fire.