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  1. #1
    Player
    Phlange's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Phlange Phace
    World
    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 90

    Gardening Crossbreed Bug

    Date & Time: April 27, 2022
    Frequency: Always
    World name: Leviathan
    Character name: Phlange Phace
    Retainer name: None
    NPC name: None
    Monster name: None
    Class/Level: Any
    Party or solo: None
    In-game time: Any
    Area and coordinates: Any garden plot
    Housing: Any garden plot

    Steps: This is in regards to the Old World Fig x Royal Fern cross. The cross % on the Old World Fig (OWF) using G3 Thanalan soil appears to be around 45%. Testing numerous other crosses using OWF with G3 Thanalan shows the cross % around 90% (we've tested thousands of crosses to find this cross % with G3 Than).

    We thought maybe ilvl of the seed was the reason for this so we decided to test OWF x Cloudsbreath (Royal Fern & Cloudsbreath ilvl are both 1). The cross % of the OWF next to Cloudsbreath is 90% debunking this theory as well.

    Another theory we thought was maybe this specific cross (OWF x Royal Fern) was being reserved for a future alternate cross. However, every other cross that does not have an alternate cross doesn't behave this way (they all have 90% cross chance with G3 Than soil).

    We cannot find any other reason for this low cross chance on the OWF when crossed with Royal Fern. We've confirmed over 4000 crosses and this seems to be the only one that behaves this way.

    Screenshot of data:
    https://imgur.com/4GP1TO2

    We have also observed very low cross rates with Premium Chocobo Food x Old World Fig. Similar to the above results.

    These results contradict the information in the Official Square Enix Guide for Crafting and Gathering (2013) which mentioned that Grade 3 Thanalan Soil intercross success is 90% and Grade 2 Thanalan Topsoil is 70%.
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    Last edited by Phlange; 04-28-2022 at 02:36 AM.

  2. #2
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    Kuwaitum's Avatar
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    Ivory Spirit
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    Faerie
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    Marauder Lv 100
    I'm a long time Gardening and Intercrossing enthusiast, I can second that. It seems that when Intercrossing Old World Fig seed with Royal Fern Sori with Grade 3 Thanalan Topsoil, the number of successful obtaining a seed via intercross are less than the Percentage mentioned in the Official Square Enix Guide for Crafting and Gathering (2013) which mentioned that Grade 3 Thanalan Soil intercross success is 90% and Grade 2 Thanalan Topsoil is 70%.
    I also need to mention that I doubt that it is "working as intended" since using Grade 2 Thanalan Topsoil proved to have more success in obtaining an intercross seed, which makes no sense having Grade 2 topsoil results higher chance that Grade 2 topsoil results.

    I hope the developers review this and shed some light about the issue here.
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  3. #3
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    MokNbolo's Avatar
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    M'ok Nbolo
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 90
    I haven't done any testing myself but I enjoy gardening and appreciate the research the FFXIV Gardening community has done. There seems to be a resurgence of interest in gardening with the release of Empyreum housing and a lot of players are coming in with questions lately. If there is a bug, the Gardening community is sure to notice. I hope the devs look into this, too.
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