Are you enjoying this?

[Darthgummibear]

I'm not really having fun since the honeymoon wore off. I've been stuck in gold for the past week because I'll get a couple decent matches, than 10 in a row where my teammates make me wonder if their brains are getting enough oxygen. More often than not when this happens the other team is perfectly coordinated with all LB's perfectly timed, all cc's perfectly timed, as if they are communicating somehow outside of the game's chat which shouldn't be possible since it's all solo queue.

Getting platinum teammates who think they can solo the whole team makes me think the whole win-streak bonus was a really stupid idea.

Job balance is completely busted on a mechanical level. A handful of minor potency tweaks won't fix any of this.

Lack of chat is awful. Quick-chat spam with actual sound effects is far more obnoxious than normal pvp salt.

None of this takes into the account that the overwatch-style gameplay really doesn't jive well at all with how the combat timing works in this game. I can't even tell you how many times I've died because I got stunned, and the purify took so long to actually do anything(I've had 2s+ delays) I was already dead by the time it kicked in...and this is with the cooldown triggering immediately so the game obviously recognized the button press. This doesn't fly at all when dealing with a mode that requires you to be able to react instantly.

Also no diminishing returns for crowd control abilities. All the new control abilities added to the game and the only way to mitigate it is one ability on a 30s cooldown...IF IT EVEN WORKS! There hasn't been a single instance where the nullify effect of purify has actually functioned for me at all. I couldn't even tell you how many times I've purified a stun only to get stunned again immediately which shouldn't be possible. Purifying a stun should effectively give you a 5 second immunity. It doesn't. I think that one is straight-up broken. I've had more issues with stunlocking since 6.1 than any mmo pvp I've ever played in my life. I wish that were an exaggeration.

All of these problems are in the new game-mode that all these job changes were designed around. Frontlines is much worse by several orders of magnitude.

After doing a ridiculous amount of pvp to get shinies, at this point I can honestly say that I liked the old system better. It's just awful now. I'm trying to maintain what little enjoyment I can get out of it long enough to get the only things I want then I'm not touching it again until they add something worth enduring this hot mess for.

I think the only reason people are enjoying it is because it's new, punchy, and easy to wrap your head around. But it's hopelessly broken.

[KageTokage]

More often than not when this happens the other team is perfectly coordinated with all LB's perfectly timed, all cc's perfectly timed, as if they are communicating somehow outside of the game's chat which shouldn't be possible since it's all solo queue.

I feel like the semi-auto PvP bots are probably blame for this because I've seen way too many instances where people basically go from 100% to dead instantly without LBs involved because of how calculated the burst from the enemy teams is at times.

They're programmed to automatically focus the lowest HP target in the vicinity, ignore players who are using guard, CC problematic abilities (Like SAMs using Chiten with a full LB gauge) and otherwise just make plays that would be considered "optimal" with no actual input from the player involved aside from movement.

There's also add-ons that automatically shove you into a discord with anyone else who's using said add-on, which while not blatantly cheating like the aforementioned still offer a chance to coordinate and give your team a significant advantage regardless.

[Darthgummibear]

I feel like the semi-auto PvP bots are probably blame for this because I've seen way too many instances where people basically go from 100% to dead instantly without LBs involved because of how calculated the burst from the enemy teams is at times.

They're programmed to automatically focus the lowest HP target in the vicinity, ignore players who are using guard, CC problematic abilities (Like SAMs using Chiten with a full LB gauge) and otherwise just make plays that would be considered "optimal" with no actual input from the player involved aside from movement.

There's also add-ons that automatically shove you into a discord with anyone else who's using said add-on, which while not blatantly cheating like the aforementioned still offer a chance to coordinate and give your team a significant advantage regardless.

Thanks for confirming that Overwatch Conflict is destined to be a perpetual dumpster fire.

[Amenara]

I have fun when I time my queues with a friend and get in the same match as them, regardless if we are on the same team. I don't have fun when I am solo queueing into it. I think my enjoyment comes from the social aspect of being in a discord call with a friend while pvping vs not.

[YukikoKurosawa]

I'm at like, 100+ matches abandoned now just in the past 3 days I think over the enemy team seemingly cheating or my own teammates throwing. Even if I didn't leave those matches were all doomed. Alt-tabbing while I wait for deserter is honestly more of an enjoyable experience than any ranked matches I've had lately.

[Necrotica]

PVP is a miserable hellscape since the changes. I would rather it was removed entirely.

[Iyrnwaen]

Are you actually having fun in pvp? If so please explain why you are enjoying it. If you are not enjoying it, please explain why.

Seems the general consensus I am hearing is that the pvp is worse than before. More cheating, more win trading, and all around just poor ranking system. People are playing hundreds of matches with w/l of 50/50 and stuck in bronze rank.

I would like to hear what people enjoy about it. We have heard plenty of people complain about the things listed above, but what do you actually enjoy? They are making balance changes so its hard to say its balanced. They have openly admitted to rampant cheating so its hard to say its competitive.

I want to enjoy pvp in this game. Explain to me how you are having fun, perhaps we can all try to do what you are doing and you can help others enjoy this system.

I hated FFXIV PvP before and avoided it like the plague.

I've been playing CC virtually nonstop since it was added. I've forgotten how to play all my jobs in PvE.
I think the new PvP kits nailed the class fantasy for virtually all of the jobs in a way their PvE kits really can't.
The super short matches prevent the frustration of losing PvP engagements in, say, League or DotA 2,
and I like the quirky random comps and arena mechanics.

My feeling is that most people who are playing a lot of PvP but aren't enjoying it need to sort out their priorities.
Nothing about the basic gameplay or match quality changes when/if you hit Crystal tier.
If you get so obsessed with stars and portrait frames that you can't enjoy the experience of playing, you're wasting your time.

[LowIQ]

I feel like the semi-auto PvP bots are probably blame for this because I've seen way too many instances where people basically go from 100% to dead instantly without LBs involved because of how calculated the burst from the enemy teams is at times.

They're programmed to automatically focus the lowest HP target in the vicinity, ignore players who are using guard, CC problematic abilities (Like SAMs using Chiten with a full LB gauge) and otherwise just make plays that would be considered "optimal" with no actual input from the player involved aside from movement.

There's also add-ons that automatically shove you into a discord with anyone else who's using said add-on, which while not blatantly cheating like the aforementioned still offer a chance to coordinate and give your team a significant advantage regardless.

Hilarious. They killed RW and FL for that...

[Amelimie]

I'm at like, 100+ matches abandoned now just in the past 3 days I think over the enemy team seemingly cheating or my own teammates throwing. Even if I didn't leave those matches were all doomed. Alt-tabbing while I wait for deserter is honestly more of an enjoyable experience than any ranked matches I've had lately.

you do know SE will ban for leaving match right?

[Jybril]

Is there an cheat that shows you when someone's using their LB and someone cancels it immediately?
I was playing DRG in rank and as soon as the subs
sound went off I got silenced...wtf? Mid jump too.