Are you enjoying this?

[LowIQ]

The only place where I hear overwhelming negativity is here on the PvP forum because that's the premier destination to complain. CC is far from perfect, but try and tell me it's worse than the Feast days after visiting the Wolves' Den.

Yes it was better during "Feast days" because during Feast days we had 3 pvp modes that all worked relatively well and had actual class roles.
Now we have one game mode (crystal conflict), one role (dps) and a design philosophy revolving around a clusterfuck of chain cc and "ults".

[Sidamel]

In the end it simply depends on what you are looking for.

Nowadays and for a very long time I was only going into frontlines. For me that patch is a dead end. Not even talking about that everything gets easier.

So after 7 years my subscription runs out for now. Most likely till the next expansion or any interesting raid.

[Katsuragi_]

Ranked is an absolute dice throw. It's not fun.

And quite honestly the old pvp jobs felt "simple enough for you to focus on the actual objectives instead" while keeping job identities and not making them too braindead. These job redesigns just went over the edge for me.

[Serisu_Sheru]

I find this to be the least fun version of PVP. I do like the concept of CC. It has a lot of potential. The balancing seems...poor, as does the matchmaking. I find myself beating a team, just to queue again and somehow get paired with 2-3 of them and just get killed. A few matches back, 2 of my teammates only managed 30k damage, which really just hurts any chances. Not being able to change your class feels so weird too. Look at something like Overwatch where you adjust your class based on your team comp, or even have some required comps. This is just hope you get a good comp.

I want to like this, but it feels that, as always, PVP just doesn't get proper love. It has a lot of the same issues it always had, and if you want to speak up on it, you're just going to have the "pros" come in and tell you to get good or how your feelings on the matter are wrong.

[Anhra]

I find this to be the least fun version of PVP. I do like the concept of CC. It has a lot of potential. The balancing seems...poor, as does the matchmaking. I find myself beating a team, just to queue again and somehow get paired with 2-3 of them and just get killed. A few matches back, 2 of my teammates only managed 30k damage, which really just hurts any chances. Not being able to change your class feels so weird too. Look at something like Overwatch where you adjust your class based on your team comp, or even have some required comps. This is just hope you get a good comp.

I want to like this, but it feels that, as always, PVP just doesn't get proper love. It has a lot of the same issues it always had, and if you want to speak up on it, you're just going to have the "pros" come in and tell you to get good or how your feelings on the matter are wrong.

If you consider that all thosr adjustments have been done from scratch, the current Design is pretty decent, sure it has its flaws like the MNK Stunlock BS or RDM, but it could have been ALOT worse.

PvP is way harder to adjust properly than PvE, since the slightest changes, can have, unlike in PvE, alot of impact (please spare me any Parsing excuses from Raiding, those are just First World issues).

Overwatch isnt a good comparison to MMO PVP btw. While i get your point on the matter, PvP in MMORPG were always rather quick and unforgiving in nature, simply by the way how the game itself is being played.

IF you really want to enjoy PvP, i recomment not taking it too seriously. While losing is never a nice thing, as long as you stay persistent with your favorite Job, even a non-meta Job can turn a Game arround (since non-meta Jobs do have one advantage, they are harder to predict by metaplayers if you know your stuff).

Those are merely my two cents on the matter.

[Serisu_Sheru]

I've played in PvP since ARR, and I still find this to be the least fun though. I can't just keep accepting "if could have been worse" as it eventually just becomes a waste of resources if it's not enjoyable, buy "could be worse."

Even if Overwatch isn't a good comparison, it was more for the point that being able to adjust would be nice. 5 dps vs 3 dps, a tank, and a healer feels unbalanced.

As for enjoying PVP, I have always found PVP fun when I'm not trying to win, but in this case, I also don't find fun in constant stun locks and just amazing balance issues. To me, this is the least fun version of PVP, with a great idea. It can be turned around, but needs some love and attention, which I still feel SE doesn't give.

[MsMisato]

Now is a bad time for this.
Before the revamp we had pvp modes like rival wings and frontline to play casually for fun but now it's all about crystal conflict. RW got canned completely and FL doesn't go well with how the new pvp is designed.

I think Frontline is more fun now. Sure jobs need tweaking but the skills have a better flow and its nice to see people actually playing. I love that the matches are neck and neck. As before I did say they need to get rid of the Shattered map, no one really likes that map. I also hope they redo Rival Wings because it was a blast when you get people on both sides that know how to play that partricular PvP style.

[Sidamel]

I don't understand the urge to drag PvE players into PvP. This has a touch of trying to pull FPS players into a MMO. That barely works.

It's the same odd developement that everything gets easier. Soon we only play with 2-3 button clicks? Or completely automated like in some mobile games?

[MStowastiqVahlshdeh]

I really like the new pvp mode, moreso than any of the other modes but I took a break after getting stuck in a ranking rut and being discouraged about people cheating. My game play revolves around a mandatory rule of only doing things that I enjoy so when I feel I can enjoy it, I will go back to it.

[Simple_Barghest]

I hate Purify not functioning correctly.
Past that, I'm down with the new PvP system.