Are you enjoying this?

[Mistress_Irika]

I have mixed feelings in general for pvp.

Having played since Stormblood I can say that this is the best system I've seen by far. I like how the limit breaks are. I like how easier it has become to burst people down. I'm especially happy that other people are now enjoying pvp. For once the narrative can change instead of hearing how bad pvp is.

However, I sorta feel left out. When frontlines went through some changes back between 5.1 and 5.3 it felt useless to create and try out new strategies, because it came to a point where people weren't playing to learn. I'm getting the same vibe from Crystal Conflict. No deranking? No personal win rate easily being displayed only to you? Rank doesnt feel like rank. It just feels like a separate casual mode to me. So I dont even try and do callouts. Overall, my solo experience has gotten worse over time, the exception being Rival Wings.

Don't get me wrong. I like what exist now. I'm grateful. However, I've seen restrictions being added to the point where it feels like competition doesnt exist, and I have a feeling that the restrictions aren't going to stop here. I'm not sure if I'm going to be grinding pvp for a 3rd straight expansion.

[Lieri]

I did Crystaline for the coffer reward just because the gear reminds me of old WoW. I also did frontlines for Garo mounts. Dont get me wrong I can appreciate their attempt. But if i want to PvP I will just play another game. You can tell how the PvP in this game is still in baby stage. So much balancing needed and mechanics fixed including targeting. The CC Chain and LB is also too strong without a potential counter play. No item can break you out of long, coordinated CC chain and nothing can make you survive a 1 hit KO LB. No potential for a counter play in a competitive match = bad design.

What I noticed in Crystaline Conflict is that its simply the matter of :
1. If your team focuses on one target
2. If your team has any dps with very strong LB
3. If your team managed to get ahead in numbers first. If you win the first battle and all your member are still alive while the opponents has less and they run back, even if theyre regrouping you are still in a big big advantage due to purify and your team members having more LB gauge. If they dont try to regroup its even better as long as your team member dont forget to purify once theyve blown off their big CDs
4. If your team has a healer and the opponent doesnt, its an auto win unless if someone decices to throw it away

It just doesnt feel too good to play. Its new and exciting but it gets tedious. You hop into the match hoping your teammates will target the player with a marker you set. Frontline is even worse, its a disaster. Now I know why they only add soloque for ranked. With fixed party they will steamroll everything in their path because again its the matter of if you hit the same target or not. Even tanks can get bursted down. Which is a little... weird. In other games playing with voice and communicating doesn't give you huge advantage because the design doesn't involve bursting down one target as fast as possible to get a massive lead.

[Freemind]

I think we can all be smart enough to know, that the only reason this post was made is because OP is complaining and wants other people to complain with him.
This is just confirmation bias hes after. He doesn't give 2 shits bout people who actually enjoy the mode.
It's just a bait post if anything.

@LowIQ
Ye it's ofcourse mostly hype. I do not deny that. ut queues for me has not changed over the month, hasn't slowed down at all. Doesn't matter ranked or casual, so it's still going just as strong.
And the whole cheating & scripting is imo blown out of proportion. I do not deny it's rampant, but people are talking as if there are 4+ cheaters in everygame.
Garo sets has been existing since like Heavensward. If Garo sets were so sought after, they'd have been farmed already previous expansions. Clearly previous pvp seasons were not fun enough to play to get these sets.
This one is.

@Flamvell If you know the community then you should also know that forum ONLY has people who complains. People who enjoy it, do not speak in forums 99% of the time. Theres no need to ,they're busy havin fun.
Ofcourse forums are blown up about complaining, thats all there is, no matter what subject it is.
We'll see if the bann people or not or disable things or not. I hope they do.

@Amelime, Ye i hope they do something, it will show if they care about the pvp or not. If they don't do anything, they might aswell remove pvp entirely. Im enjoying the shit out off it right now atleast.

[Coffex]

I think we can all be smart enough to know, that the only reason this post was made is because OP is complaining and wants other people to complain with him.
This is just confirmation bias hes after. He doesn't give 2 shits bout people who actually enjoy the mode.
It's just a bait post if anything.

@LowIQ
Ye it's ofcourse mostly hype. I do not deny that. ut queues for me has not changed over the month, hasn't slowed down at all. Doesn't matter ranked or casual, so it's still going just as strong.
And the whole cheating & scripting is imo blown out of proportion. I do not deny it's rampant, but people are talking as if there are 4+ cheaters in everygame.
Garo sets has been existing since like Heavensward. If Garo sets were so sought after, they'd have been farmed already previous expansions. Clearly previous pvp seasons were not fun enough to play to get these sets.
This one is.

@Flamvell If you know the community then you should also know that forum ONLY has people who complains. People who enjoy it, do not speak in forums 99% of the time. Theres no need to ,they're busy havin fun.
Ofcourse forums are blown up about complaining, thats all there is, no matter what subject it is.
We'll see if the bann people or not or disable things or not. I hope they do.

@Amelime, Ye i hope they do something, it will show if they care about the pvp or not. If they don't do anything, they might aswell remove pvp entirely. Im enjoying the shit out off it right now atleast.

Thank you for your opinion and input. Would you care to elaborate on what you mean?

[Bureda]

Casual: Super Fun

Polymorph: Giga Cancer
Ranked: Super Cancer
AOE CC: Super Cancer
Silence: Super Cancer
CC Stacking (because each CC of same type is treated different it ends up layering on top, so even if you don't coordinate your stuns together they will stack anyway): Cancer.

If your goal is fun, casual is the way to go for CC. Frontlines has job stacking so that's probably not as fun, but it's still casual and mass pvp.

[Neoyoshi]

Are you actually having fun in pvp? If so please explain why you are enjoying it. If you are not enjoying it, please explain why.

1. Mordor. (Murder)

2. I get to kill cute things.

3. I fail at killing those cute things and they kill me instead. (mostly they kill me instead)

4. Our FC mainly PvP's together, because it's better to die spectacularly as a family unit.

5. I love getting killed. (Please come kill me)

[Bureda]

1. Mordor. (Murder)

2. I get to kill cute things.

3. I fail at killing those cute things and they kill me instead. (mostly they kill me instead)

4. Our FC mainly PvP's together, because it's better to die spectacularly as a family unit.

5. I love getting killed. (Please come kill me)

You want a hug bruh?

[Neoyoshi]

You want a hug bruh?

Sure thing, let's hug it out on the battlefield. : D

[Tahseh]

My previous statement was a bit too harsh.
While there has been a bunch of queue syncing and cheaters are coming out of the woodwork as you get closer to crystal over here on Primal, the changes have all been for the better. While I was in the minority that loved the old pvp the changes have gotten tons of new players into pvp and I'm glad they're all having fun.

Aside from minor tweaks to get balance right I just want square to take a far harsher stance on cheating this time around.

[AmpLyra]

Aside from questionable job balance, it's been enjoyable for the most part.

SCH feels simultaneously so good yet so bad because it has zero hard CC and zero peel