Are you enjoying this?

[Freemind]

"It's not more cheating or more wintrading. Feast used to be purely wintrading all other seasons."

There are countless discord servers now, spreading scripts for every job class. The more people play, the more they demand ways to cheat, especially because pvp is really bad and imbalanced right now.
People will grind their series rewards and then it will be dead until the next season. Wake up lmao.

Ye it's happening because of the popularity from the pvp, considering how feast was dead, there was no need to make any scripts, because you had no one to fight.
SQE needs to adress these issues & it will be fine.
Your doom preaching is getting boring. The pvp has been out for what, a month? Relax.

[Amelimie]

Ye it's happening because of the popularity from the pvp, considering how feast was dead, there was no need to make any scripts, because you had no one to fight.
SQE needs to adress these issues & it will be fine.
Your doom preaching is getting boring. The pvp has been out for what, a month? Relax.

He has good point unless SE drops the hammer hard on 3rd party users game mode will die and none of us want that. Thing is I know PVP being popular is somewhat new for NA and EU. On Jp pvp has always been big deal. Even before CC, every night we have non stop FL 3 mins queues for 6-8 hours, RW organised weekends with non stop queues, but we never had huge hacker problem until now. Given that SE does nothing about add on users... market bots, map bots, PVE bots chances are pretty low they will take action on pvp cheats, rather ban me for spamming push the crystal...

[Flamvell]

Ye it's happening because of the popularity from the pvp, considering how feast was dead, there was no need to make any scripts, because you had no one to fight.
SQE needs to adress these issues & it will be fine.
Your doom preaching is getting boring. The pvp has been out for what, a month? Relax.

I'Ve been playing The Feast since the first season and made it into the top 100 about 4 times, also been playing and watching the drama around CC. I dare to say that I kind of know the community by now,
well enough to be more than a "doom preacher", at least.

SQE will never do something about the bots and cheaters, they've ignored it for years already. They rather punish for inappropriate emotes.

[Anhra]

I enjoy the PvP enough, to commit multiple evening hours to Ranked Matches, mostly as BLM.

As for the why, for the simple enjoyment of becoming a better overall Player and to assert dominance over those who limit themselves by following the Meta.

But the thing i enjoy most, is to see almost all the Feast top rankers (from the data center im in) struggle to win despite being apparently so good at PvP.

[Mistress_Irika]

I have mixed feelings in general for pvp.

Having played since Stormblood I can say that this is the best system I've seen by far. I like how the limit breaks are. I like how easier it has become to burst people down. I'm especially happy that other people are now enjoying pvp. For once the narrative can change instead of hearing how bad pvp is.

However, I sorta feel left out. When frontlines went through some changes back between 5.1 and 5.3 it felt useless to create and try out new strategies, because it came to a point where people weren't playing to learn. I'm getting the same vibe from Crystal Conflict. No deranking? No personal win rate easily being displayed only to you? Rank doesnt feel like rank. It just feels like a separate casual mode to me. So I dont even try and do callouts. Overall, my solo experience has gotten worse over time, the exception being Rival Wings.

Don't get me wrong. I like what exist now. I'm grateful. However, I've seen restrictions being added to the point where it feels like competition doesnt exist, and I have a feeling that the restrictions aren't going to stop here. I'm not sure if I'm going to be grinding pvp for a 3rd straight expansion.

[Lieri]

I did Crystaline for the coffer reward just because the gear reminds me of old WoW. I also did frontlines for Garo mounts. Dont get me wrong I can appreciate their attempt. But if i want to PvP I will just play another game. You can tell how the PvP in this game is still in baby stage. So much balancing needed and mechanics fixed including targeting. The CC Chain and LB is also too strong without a potential counter play. No item can break you out of long, coordinated CC chain and nothing can make you survive a 1 hit KO LB. No potential for a counter play in a competitive match = bad design.

What I noticed in Crystaline Conflict is that its simply the matter of :
1. If your team focuses on one target
2. If your team has any dps with very strong LB
3. If your team managed to get ahead in numbers first. If you win the first battle and all your member are still alive while the opponents has less and they run back, even if theyre regrouping you are still in a big big advantage due to purify and your team members having more LB gauge. If they dont try to regroup its even better as long as your team member dont forget to purify once theyve blown off their big CDs
4. If your team has a healer and the opponent doesnt, its an auto win unless if someone decices to throw it away

It just doesnt feel too good to play. Its new and exciting but it gets tedious. You hop into the match hoping your teammates will target the player with a marker you set. Frontline is even worse, its a disaster. Now I know why they only add soloque for ranked. With fixed party they will steamroll everything in their path because again its the matter of if you hit the same target or not. Even tanks can get bursted down. Which is a little... weird. In other games playing with voice and communicating doesn't give you huge advantage because the design doesn't involve bursting down one target as fast as possible to get a massive lead.

[Freemind]

I think we can all be smart enough to know, that the only reason this post was made is because OP is complaining and wants other people to complain with him.
This is just confirmation bias hes after. He doesn't give 2 shits bout people who actually enjoy the mode.
It's just a bait post if anything.

@LowIQ
Ye it's ofcourse mostly hype. I do not deny that. ut queues for me has not changed over the month, hasn't slowed down at all. Doesn't matter ranked or casual, so it's still going just as strong.
And the whole cheating & scripting is imo blown out of proportion. I do not deny it's rampant, but people are talking as if there are 4+ cheaters in everygame.
Garo sets has been existing since like Heavensward. If Garo sets were so sought after, they'd have been farmed already previous expansions. Clearly previous pvp seasons were not fun enough to play to get these sets.
This one is.

@Flamvell If you know the community then you should also know that forum ONLY has people who complains. People who enjoy it, do not speak in forums 99% of the time. Theres no need to ,they're busy havin fun.
Ofcourse forums are blown up about complaining, thats all there is, no matter what subject it is.
We'll see if the bann people or not or disable things or not. I hope they do.

@Amelime, Ye i hope they do something, it will show if they care about the pvp or not. If they don't do anything, they might aswell remove pvp entirely. Im enjoying the shit out off it right now atleast.

[Coffex]

I think we can all be smart enough to know, that the only reason this post was made is because OP is complaining and wants other people to complain with him.
This is just confirmation bias hes after. He doesn't give 2 shits bout people who actually enjoy the mode.
It's just a bait post if anything.

@LowIQ
Ye it's ofcourse mostly hype. I do not deny that. ut queues for me has not changed over the month, hasn't slowed down at all. Doesn't matter ranked or casual, so it's still going just as strong.
And the whole cheating & scripting is imo blown out of proportion. I do not deny it's rampant, but people are talking as if there are 4+ cheaters in everygame.
Garo sets has been existing since like Heavensward. If Garo sets were so sought after, they'd have been farmed already previous expansions. Clearly previous pvp seasons were not fun enough to play to get these sets.
This one is.

@Flamvell If you know the community then you should also know that forum ONLY has people who complains. People who enjoy it, do not speak in forums 99% of the time. Theres no need to ,they're busy havin fun.
Ofcourse forums are blown up about complaining, thats all there is, no matter what subject it is.
We'll see if the bann people or not or disable things or not. I hope they do.

@Amelime, Ye i hope they do something, it will show if they care about the pvp or not. If they don't do anything, they might aswell remove pvp entirely. Im enjoying the shit out off it right now atleast.

Thank you for your opinion and input. Would you care to elaborate on what you mean?

[Freemind]

Thank you for your opinion and input. Would you care to elaborate on what you mean?

Can you be specific which part?
If you mean the first part then essentially asking, when someones already complained about in the forum, "do you guys actually like this?"
Is just used to find all the ones who hates it equally, so they can be like "Ye i hate it to." To confirm the opinion OP already has.

Just from reading the forum title, i already 100% know, OP is not enjoying the pvp, it's obvious as hell. He could might aswell have named it "Who else hate pvp?"
Because people who likes the pvp & who enjoys it, won't come here to the forum. Very few of them do. The people who comes to the forum are the complainers.
The ones who enjoy pvp is out pvping & having fun. So asking "who actually enjoys pvp?" in the forums, where its the haters hangout, what else are you looking for, than a cult following of other haters?

[Coffex]

Considering I am the OP it is a bit worrisome that you know my thoughts and feelings more than I. Perhaps you have some insight into that. But that will have to wait for another time as this forum post is to find out what people enjoy about the new system and what they do not. I would very much like to here a more in depth understanding from you on why you feel either enjoyment or lack thereof out of pvp. Hence the reply asking you to further elaborate.

Again, I appreciate everyone's input and would like to hear more. I am personally getting a lot of new perspectives from many people and it is quite refreshing to hear from people with differing opinions.